ST Filming Techniques and Technologies for the ST

A Maz reveal would be great.

 

She isn't "full CGI" though, is she?

EDIT: I'd appreciate a warning if the images are of Nyong'o in full alien glory. I want try leave that reveal until the film. However, I do want the magazine.

 

She'll apparently be motion capture, ala Gollum.

 

Yes, that is what I thought, and supposedly it is she who is handing Leia the lightsabre in Teaser 2 - since her arm is (I believe) her actual arm, I took this to mean that the character is only partially CGI., e.g. the head and tail (IF there is one).

Also, on a technical note is motion capture like Golloum, Maz and Caeser considered "full CGI", because isn't Jar Jar in TPM a full CGI creation and not motion capture at all?

 

"George Lucas used it to create Jar Jar Binks in the 'Star Wars' prequels -- Ahmed Best acted on the set opposite the other performers while wearing a special suit with markers, which was then used to create the digital rendering of the character."
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They never react to anything? So what about when the ion shields switch off and the bits of lava come raining down on them, forcing the two of them to stop fighting and take cover before resuming? The lighting? They're standing on a world filled with magma. They're going to look like that.

Do you want to film over actual lava?

Everyone thinks something is fake. You think that the PT invented that? People looked at the Rancor and the Taun Taun and cried fake!

 

If there's a late show of that, some of the actors could find themselves taking a break.

 

darth-sinister - what I mean is that it doesn't feel like they react appropriately to their surroundings - yes, there are moments designed to be reacted to, and the actors duly react, but it's always slightly off. To me, anyway.

However, this thread hasn't gone on as long as it has by people accepting that others have different points of view, so I won't push the point - I suspect that my appetite for watching special features and analysing to death has ruined some CG shots for me, and I would rather not have the issues I do - I'd compare the people with my point of view to the audiophiles who insist that music is unlistenable if you don't have £1500 cables; if when watching AOTC you genuinely don't have an issue with the CG, then fair enough.

 

Sorry, I dozed off for a second there. I made it to something about degrees or something. I think I'll go watch Bram Stoker's Dracula and not worry about the lack of 360 degree cartoon sets.

 

But we're not really talking about "fake". All movies are "fake" in some sense. It's about believability.

 

i'm so glad i've ignored certain people. now i don't even see most of the arguments. anyways the effects people find acceptable changes with time. i think the ot and pt still look great.

 

Mesa toosa.

 

Yes, I knew Best was on set but I thought it was only as a frame of reference for the other actors and that ILM created Jar Jar completely in the computer, programming him with Best's movements.

I thought the motion capture wasn't used until AotC. I'm going have to go over the special features again someday soon - I'm forgetting everything

 

I'm glad they allowed pics to be taken of Lupita with the motion capture rig on, because they really need to stop advertising this movie as a return to practical effects. It's causing all this infighting. There is going to be a ton of CG in this film, as JJ once said. I do wish Lucasfilm would put an end to this and showcase more of the practical effects of the PT in their social media posts.

ILM always does a great job. None of us would be hired for them. Well, almost none. We are all armchair critics.

There's more to discuss about aesthetic, which is just a matter of personal taste. The aesthetic of the new movie looks like a departure from 1-6 to me. The new designs (overall) look like ones Lucas would have discarded. But that's got nothing to do with the tech. ILM tech is always cutting edge.

 

Seriously, Andy Serkis was announced a year ago. At that point it was clear that there'd be at least one mo-capped character in TFA. This wasn't a secret.

 

No one at Lucasfilm or Disney are advertising the movie as a return to any kind of VFX.

The cause of "infighting" is a bunch of nerds just upsetting themselves and the press desperate for attention by banging on about "practical effects" and that is not Kennedy, Iger or Abrams problem.

Now, regarding Nyong'o, is she in the magazine in just the tech gear, and not as the alien character?

 

yeah they used mo-cap in tpm with jar jar's foot stuck to the droid body. also gungans fighting droids.

 

I still doubt he's actually playing a mo-capped character, Uber is supposed to look 'zombie-like' that could just be make-up.

After all he's doing more non-mo cap stuff these days like Age Of Ultron.

 

Even so, his company is involved. My point is really just that nobody expected TFA to be CGI-free, despite the endless strawmanning by people like KenW.

 

Oh yeah, for sure.

 

I wouldn't say "more" - he has always done live action, it is just that there is a lot of mo-cap project on his plate recently - and forthcoming.

His few minutes in Age of Ultron were great - looking forward to him coming t it again.[

quote="Artoo-Dion, post: 52366559, member: 1353765"]Even so, his company is involved. My point is really just that nobody expected TFA to be CGI-free, despite the endless strawmanning by people like KenW.[/quote]

It is hardly surprising that the topic keeps coming back up here. The media are constantly droning on about the whole "practical" thing, even sites that know nothing about it, and fans come back here to express annoyance** - I'd imagine Abrams himself must be bored by the same questions over and over on the topic.

** Fans shouldn't let it annoy them, but some people do pay too much heed to things said on the internet.

 

I don't think most people expected a full CGI speaking character either, with the way they were talking.

 

Really? Given the presence of the Imaginarium announced almost a year ago?

Edit: Here you go, 28 June, 2014...