ST Filming Techniques and Technologies for the ST

Having stayed off this thread for a while to observe, there's one main reason this thread keeps getting derailed.

 

I wonder how the 3D conversion will turn out for this movie. Because the 3D in the last teaser looked pretty good when I saw it in the theater.

 

I haven't seen a 3D trailer myself, but would imagine that the conversion would look good.

 

I wish they'd just not do 3D at all.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with conversions per se. I'd rather a retrospective conversion than something specifically made with 3D in mind.

 

I saw the trailer in 3D when I went to watch Ant-Man. It did look quite good, for the most part. Funnily enough, the best 3D effect was Kylo’s lightsaber when he swings it down. Looked really cool.

 

I just love the look of this shot, specially the lightning, of course 95% of the troops and the vehicles and the Tie-Fighters are most likely CGI, the mountains and sky probably plate shots of the Iceland shooting or CG created but it looks awesome. Another fantastic blend of all techniques.

 

Agreed - it looks like the best of all worlds. Great image.

 

Actually the imaging got me thinking. With all the talk being can it be done old school with updated tech my mind wondered if it could be a matte painting similar to the hangar bay for Palpatine's arrival at the Death Star. Probably not but yeah just a thought.


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It could be a matte painting - almost definitely a digital painting however, not a traditional matte. This is actually done in essentially every modern blockbuster.

 

hooray!

 

A matte painting is a matte painting is a matte painting.

The tools evolve but the function is the same.

A matte painting is a painted representation of a landscape, set, or distant location that allows filmmakers to create the illusion of an environment that is nonexistent in real life or would otherwise be too expensive or impossible to build or visit.

Exactically!

 

If there hadn't been smoke in the lower right of the shot I would have thought the whole image was a still. Even the actors in the foreground don't seem to move.

It'll be interesting to see the breakdown on these shots, what's physically on set, what's second unit location background layered with pure CG background, etc.

 

Are you trying to suggest I didn't know that? Or are you reinforcing my point?

 

On the off chance that someone passing by here didn't know the differences I found your quote good for illustrating the point.

 

I love how practical they're going on this movie. Look at that First order shot with thousands of costumed extras and those massive full-scale vehicles. I hope the cast and crew were warm enough in that arctic environment as it can be very cold.

 

All I need is for an effect to be executed and integrated into the film well enough for me to believe in it; it doesn't need to be real. None of this is real, and it's not remotely realistic. We all know Yoda is a puppet in The Empire Strikes Back, but all of the components that go into making the character come to life work so well that I believe in him as a living thing when he's on screen. That's all I want from the effects in this movie, whether they're CGI or practical or some combination of the two; I just want to be so sucked in that I believe in what I'm looking at, and I don't want anything to snap me out of that immersion.

 

I've also heard through my connections that ILM is developing practical laser blasts that can be shot at stand in dummies. These laser bolts will then be composited into shots. Imagine that, real laser bolts in a fake movie! I mean, that's what it's all about isn't it?

 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/13/9131805/ilm-ilmxlab-interview-virtual-reality-star-wars-movies

 

so this new thing, has : "featuring tech from the Force Awakens".
https://twitter.com/AppStore/status/662335746406125568

 

I agree with a lot of this. And I believe most people who are tired of CGI are tired of films that use insane amounts of CGI in an unhinged manner.

Well-integrated CGI is just as good as, and sometimes better than, a practical effect.

And IMO, it's mostly about lighting, not rendering. That's why the original Jurassic Park holds up.