Amph Filmmakers & Critics' Top Ten Movies: Liv Ullmann

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  1. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    That's two lists back to back with Vertigo, my favorite. Also, that's got to be the first appearance of both Malcolm X and Blade Runner.
  2. JohnWesleyDowney Force Ghost

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    Interesting that Dickerson named Malcolm X as one of his top ten films. He was Spike Lee's director of photography on that movie. So he listed a movie he himself photographed. I don't think there's anything wrong with that per se, but it's unusual for someone to put one of their own films on their top 10 favorites list, isn't it?
  3. Nevermind Jedi Grand Master

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    Roger Ebert
    (Film Critic: Chicago Sun-Times)

    Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972, Werner Herzog)
    Apocalypse Now (1979, Francis Ford Coppola)
    Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles)
    The Decalogue (1988, Krzysztof Kieslowski)
    La Dolce Vita (1959, Federico Fellini)
    The General (1927, Buster Keaton)
    Raging Bull (1980, Martin Scorsese)
    2001: A Space Odyssey (1968, Stanley Kubrick)
    Tokyo Story (1953, Yasujiro Ozu)
    Vertigo (1958, Alfred Hitchcock)
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    Federico Fellini
    (Filmmaker: Nights of Cabiria, 8 1/2)

    The Circus/City Lights/Monsieur Verdoux (1928,31,47, Charles Chaplin)
    Stagecoach (1939, John Ford)
    any Marx Brothers or Laurel and Hardy
    Rashomon (1950, Akira Kurosawa)
    The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972, Luis Bunuel)
    2001: A Space Odyssey (1968, Stanley Kubrick)
    Paisan (1946, Roberto Rossellini)
    The Birds (1963, Alfred Hitchcock)
    Wild Strawberries (1957, Ingmar Bergman)
    8 1/2 (1963, Federico Fellini)

    I like that he chose his own best movie.
  5. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    He also chose Bergman's best! And I'll give a round of applause to anybody who puts "Anything with the Marx Brothers or Laurel & Hardy" on their top ten list. Amen, brother.
  6. Nevermind Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, not anything. If you have never seen "Girl Happy" or "The Story of Mankind", my sole piece of advice is: don't.

    Milos Forman
    (Filmmaker: The Fireman's Ball, Amadeus)

    Amarcord (1974, Federico Fellini)
    American Graffiti (1973, George Lucas)
    Children of Paradise (1945, Marcel Carne)
    Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles)
    City Lights (1931, Charles Chaplin)
    The Deer Hunter (1978, Michael Cimino)
    Giant (1956, George Stevens)
    The Godfather (1972, Francis Ford Coppola)
    Miracle in Milan (1950, Vittorio De Sica)
    Raging Bull (1980, Martin Scorsese)

    "Giant" suggests that he enjoys camp (so does his career). The juxtaposition of "Miracle in Milan" and "Raging Bull" is...interesting.
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    Samuel Fuller
    (Filmmaker: Pickup on South Street, Shock Corridor)

    The Informer (1935, John Ford)
    The Gold Rush (1925, Charles Chaplin)
    Battleship Potemkin (1925, Sergei Eisenstein)
    Rashomon (1950, Akira Kurosawa)
    Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles)
    Pierrot le Fou (1965, Jean-Luc Godard)
    The 400 Blows (1959, Francois Truffaut)
    The Last Emperor (1987, Bernardo Bertolucci)
    La Dolce Vita (1959, Federico Fellini)
    Brief Encounter (1945, David Lean)

    Very interesting list, including "Brief Encounter"(!), which has to be the most genteel love story ever.
  8. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    Only one movie made after 1965.
  9. JohnWesleyDowney Force Ghost

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    Fuller died in 1997. He had a tumultuos and controversial career, but it was certainly interesting.

    Samuel Fuller on wikipedia

    I liked the movie Fuller did with Mark Hamill, the Big Red One.

    I also liked the fact that Steven Spielberg gave Fuller a small role in 1941.
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    Terry Gilliam
    (Filmmaker: Brazil, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas)

    Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles)
    Seven Samurai (1954, Akira Kurosawa)
    The Seventh Seal (1957, Ingmar Bergman)
    8 1/2 (1963, Federico Fellini)
    2001: A Space Odyssey (1968, Stanley Kubrick)
    Sherlock Jr. (1924, Buster Keaton)
    Pinocchio (1940, Ben Sharpsteen)
    Children of Paradise (1945, Marcel Carne)
    One-Eyed Jacks (1960, Marlon Brando)
    The Apartment (1960, Billy Wilder)

    Some good choices, some interesting choics (Pinocchio), and two bad ones, "One-Eyed Jacks" (a real disaster) and "The Apartment" (dishonest).
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    Absolutely stunning study of obsession and madness. The closing, circling shot of an armored, insanity-frozen
    Klaus Kinski standing on a disheveled raft floating down the headwaters of the Amazon river is Herzog at his best.

  12. JohnWesleyDowney Force Ghost

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    Considering Gilliam's persona, I find his list, for the most part, to be surpisingly sedate, traditional and predictable. We know he's not putting us on though, because several of the choices are too offbeat to be those of someone who is trying to mimic the lists of others.
  13. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    Pinocchio is actually a very Gilliam-esque film, very nightmarish and offbeat. Makes sense to me. Not sure what he sees in The Apartment though.
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    Amos Gitai
    (Filmmaker: Kippur, Kadosh)

    Teorema (1968, Pier Poalo Pasolini)
    Flowers of St. Francis (1950, Roberto Rossellini)
    Paisan (1946, Roberto Rossellini)
    Shock Corridor (1963, Samuel Fuller)
    Some Came Running (1958, Vincente Minnelli)
    The River (1951, Jean Renoir)
    The Car (19??, Ritwik Ghatak)
    The Music Room (1958, Satyajit Ray)
    The Age of the Earth (1980, Glauber Rocha)
    The Quiet Man (1952, John Ford)

    Seen exactly two of these: the Ford and the Minnelli.
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    Owen Gleiberman
    (Film critic: Entertainment Weekly)

    Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles)
    The Godfather (1972, Francis Ford Coppola)
    It's a Wonderful Life (1946, Frank Capra)
    Psycho (1960, Alfred Hitchcock)
    Nashville (1975, Robert Altman)
    The Philadelphia Story (1940, George Cukor)
    Scorpio Rising (1964, Kenneth Anger)
    The Wizard of Oz (1939, Victor Fleming)
    Mean Streets (1973, Martin Scorsese)
    Natural Born Killers (1994, Oliver Stone)

    Some hits; at least four misses.
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    It's like he's got two totally different sensibilities.

    I never thought I'd see The Wizard of Oz and It's a Wonderful Life
    together with Mean Streets and Naturally Born Killers on the same
    person's list! :eek:

    Look! He managed to work in one of Zaz's least favorite movies with
    one of Rogue's least favorite movies...(Wonderful Life, Oz) and still
    managed to include one of MY least favorite films, Natural Born Killers.
    Wow.
  17. Nevermind Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, that takes talent.
  18. duende Force Ghost

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    i don't think it's that surprising - the guy's probably seen thousands of movies.

    though scorpio rising is about the last film i'd expect to see on his list. interesting.
  19. Nevermind Jedi Grand Master

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    Jean-Luc Godard
    (Film critic: Cahiers du Cinema; Filmmaker: Breathless, Contempt) Top Ten American Films from the Sound Era:

    Scarface (1932, Howard Hawks)
    The Great Dictator (1940, Charles Chaplin)
    Vertigo (1958, Alfred Hitchcock)
    The Searchers (1956, John Ford)
    Singin' in the Rain (1952, Stanley Donen/Gene Kelly)
    The Lady from Shanghai (1948, Orson Welles)
    Bigger Than Life (1956, Nicholas Ray)
    Angel Face (1953, Otto Preminger)
    To Be or Not to Be (1942, Ernst Lubitsch)
    Dishonored (1931, Josef von Sternberg)

    Top Six French Films Since the Liberation:

    Le Plaisir (1951, Max Ophuls)
    La Pyramide humaine (1961, Jean Rouch)
    The Testament of Orpheus (1960, Jean Cocteau)
    Le Testament du Docteur Cordelier (1961, Jean Renoir)
    Pickpocket (1959, Robert Bresson)
    Les Godelureaux (1961, Claude Chabrol)

    Given the reference to the Liberation, I'm guessing this is not a recent list, but I like that he is unable to stick to ten...that's my problem, too. Some odd choices in the American list, esp. the Preminger (I've seen it) and the von Sternberg (not his most famous film).

    Of the French list, I've seen exactly one--"Le Plaisir". It is two-thirds trivia and one third bleakness. I'm guessing the bleak episode--short and very, very sour--is what he liked. But Ophuls' "The Earrings of Madame de..." is so much better.
  20. JohnWesleyDowney Force Ghost

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    (mock surprise) What! What? No Spielberg films on Godard's list? Godard hates Spielberg's movies. But he likes Hitchcock and Ford, two of Spielberg's influences. Go figure.
  21. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    [face_laugh] That's hilarious.

    As to Godard, no one who puts The Lady from Shanghai on a ten best list has a right to look down on Spielberg. Or anyone, for that matter.
  22. Nevermind Jedi Grand Master

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    I suspect it's like "A Pocketful of Miracles"; it probably sounds better dubbed into French. It would lose Welles' godawful Irish accent, for one thing; though it would still have his nostril-diving close-ups.
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    Peter Greenaway
    (Filmmaker: The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover; The Pillow Book)

    Last Year at Marienbad (1961, Alain Resnais)
    Breathless (1959, Jean-Luc Godard)
    La Notte (1961, Michelangelo Antonioni)
    The Rules of the Game (1939, Jean Renoir)
    The Seventh Seal (1957, Ingmar Bergman)
    Strike (1924, Sergei Eisenstein)
    Throne of Blood (1957, Akira Kurosawa)
    Fellini's Casanova (1976, Federico Fellini)
    8 1/2 (1963, Federico Fellini)
    The Marquise of O (1976, Eric Rohmer)

    You can definitely see his taste in this list. First cite of Eisenstein's "Strike" and Resnais' "Last Year at Marienbad"
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    That's an impressive list. If mine looked like that people would just think I was being pretentious.
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    Stuart Gordon
    (Filmmaker: Re-Animator, From Beyond)

    Behind the Green Door (1972, Jim and Artie Mitchell)
    Bride of Frankenstein (1935, James Whale)
    Duck Soup (1933, Leo McCarey)
    The Godfather (1972, Francis Ford Coppola)
    King Kong (1933, Merian C. Cooper/Ernest B. Schoedsack)
    Psycho (1960, Alfred Hitchcock)
    Rosemary's Baby (1968, Roman Polanski)
    Satyricon (1970, Federico Fellini)
    2001: A Space Odyssey (1968, Stanley Kubrick)
    The Tingler (1959, William Castle)
    The Wild Bunch (1969, Sam Peckinpah)

    First cite of "The Wild Bunch", I think.

    "The Tingler"? Castle is beyond untalented all the way to massively, defiantly untalented to the point of put-on, aka UweBollville.