ST Finn is/was NOT 'a janitor.'

The line is there for storytelling reasons. We need to learn, clearly, that Finn has no idea how to lower the shields and that he's there for Rey, not the mission. His assignment being sanitation is as far away from an assignment surrounding the shields as one can get, that's why it's chosen. It's a real shame that so many have jumped on it and drawn the completely wrong conclusions about the character.

It's demeaning to Finn in the same way that calling Rey a perfect Mary Sue is to her.

 

Some photoshop wizard really needs to make a pic of Finn wielding a plunger instead of a lightsaber.

 

Thank you for proving my point.

 

Maybe they don't think there's a such thing as man made climate change. Maybe they don't think 2+2=4, maybe they don't think the sky is blue. If they can't see the clarity in it, then they are tunnel minded. Its a conscious effort to remain oblivious.

 

Or maybe we are intellectuals who have actually both educated ourselves and, of equal importance, have walked in this world and realize that the low end and vastly non educated complaining from individuals, while always seeing racism and/or conjuring ridiculous narratives, is a total and utter waste of our time to even spend more than a moment dealing with. You are entitled to your opinion and nobody is telling you to not have it. However, you are attempting to insert your minority opinion on to others who simply wish to enjoy a movie and not have to deal with people such as yourself who actually believe they know the mindset of people they have no connection with while equally speculating and slandering them in the process.

You want to complain and want to see negative issues with each and every single thing? Fair enough, it's your life and thus your waste of time. However, it is not everyone else's responsibility to agree with you just to make you happy and feel like you have accomplished something. He stated he worked in sanitation.... so what? Nobody is hurt. Life goes on and doesn't require you telling others what they are or aren't for it to do so.

 

I must say, I thought this thread would have died pretty fast... 4 pages ago

 

Like...I....said...."tunnel minded people". Good day.

 

It's called "tunnel vision", not "tunnel minded" as that makes utterly no sense. I figured I would do my good deed for the day and help someone who is vastly lacking any substance and repeating the same rhetoric again and again without adding a single factual and/or convincing facet to their wondrous stance.... all while telling people what they are. You must do exceedingly well for yourself.

Good day to you as well.

 

As CrazyOldJedi has stated many times Finn is a Normal Guy\Everyday Joe who gets caught up in something bigger than himself and comes out on the other side a better man.

 

To anyone thinking Finn was a janitor by having worked in sanitation at SKB, I offer you a snippet of Before The Force Awakens:

There. Close this thread

 

Luke was a good pilot, but his progression goes from being really good with trainer aircraft to flying an F-22 into combat, with a squadron that he has never flown before, and with zero experience or training in squadron tactics, on the basis of "I can totally make that shot, honest guys!". If we're so concerned about "realism" he should have been laughed out of the briefing room.

 

My first thought when he said he was in sanitation is that he was kind of a troublemaker, a nonconformist. In the military, doesn't the guy who can't get along end up scrubbing the toilets or something?

 

If Biggs' comment at the debriefing and in the deleted scenes is anything to go by flying an X-Wing isn't much harder than flying a T-16. In fact, the fact that Biggs has complete confidence in Luke tells us that Luke is an amazing pilot from the onset.

 

What's wrong with Finn being a janitor? Everybody acts like it's the worst thing in the world, but it makes sense for his character. Before getting to Jakku Finn was sheltered from the worst side of the First Order. He was subject to it's propaganda from a very young age and kept away from it's reality to be indoctrinated into the First Order, but once he sees reality his first instinct is to run away.

Being in sanitation would give Finn the opportunity to discover the ins and outs of Starkiller base so he could help the Resistance take it down, but doesn't take away from his abilities as a Stormtrooper. So what if he had a custodial role at one point? By the start of the film he was a full-fledged Stormtrooper and that's pretty much all that matters.

 

In my head canon, Finn did a good job cleaning up the place with Joel and Mike until Kylo Ren and Hux didn't like the latter two and shot them into space. Thus, MST3K was born!

 

Are there any janitors in this thread that can share their opinions?

Also, I happen to have some normal side questions like...I never, ever see janitors with all-purpose cleaners and other specialized products...which is the argument I make for talking my wife out of buying all that crap. Bleach, vinegar, mild detergent, baking soda, and ammonia seem to be more than good enough for the "pros" so they're good enough for us! I just want to get some validation. The occasional CLR, steamer, muriatic acid too.

 

Maybe Stormtroopers do a 'tour of duty' at all aspects of maintenance, sanitation, engineering etc. so they are familiar with all the inner workings of First Order infrastructure.
I happen to recall a situation where it would have been handy to have had a a squad be familiar with the trash compactors in an Imperial facility happening before.
"Where'd they go?"
"Oh, I worked sanitation and I see that there is a gaping hole in this trash compactor grate so it's obvious they went down there. No need to follow them, I can tell you that the maintenance hatch is magnetically sealed, they will be crushed [checks time] in oh, about thirty seconds."

 

Phasma outright states that he's never been in trouble before

 

The whole sanitation bit was to give a moment of comic levity before the heart breaking event that was soon to come. It was also to establish that Finn was really there for Rey, anything else was secondary to him. I don't think any analysis beyond that is needed.

 

Finn's the nuts. End of

 

Yeah, she did. It's one of the things that doesn't make thematic sense to me. I prefer to think of Finn as kind of a troublesome Stormtrooper. You know, the guy who never bought into the propaganda, but who's been going along to get along.

 

Considering that Finn couldn't identify any of the tools Rey needed when she was fixing the ship it stands to reason that Stormtroopers don't no anything when it comes to engineering. From what the movie tells us, Finn knows how to shoot and Finn knows how the Starkiller's sanitation works. Anything beyond that is pure conjecture.

 

That's a great point. Maybe he was a trooper in charge of guarding a compactor chute?

 

Ok I am not even sure how I found this forum, let alone this thread, as I am a very casual Star Wars fan (if you can call it that...as in I've seen the first three on TV and stuff) who googled something after seeing the film and stumbled upon this place. I was bored and found this thread and somehow kept reading and must say it is the most fascinating exercise in futility I've ever seen and I cannot look away lmao. I had to register because of this thread alone. I may never comment again but please continue, I am popping the popcorn.


On a side note....my dad IS a janitor. And he's a pretty great guy. And. I can't handle all this janiitorism up in this place! All you janorists!!! (And to whoever asked about the baking soda and vinegar etc as just as good cleaning options.....they sure are lol. )

Anyways. I liked the film a lot and it actually got a non super fan interested in the franchise. I liked Finn. Then again I didn't have any expectations going into this but hey if he can get non uber fans excited then isn't that an automatic win no matter what?. But please continue this debate. I haven't been this entertained in a while........are all the threads like this? Why have I never gotten into Star Wars sooner?!?!?

 

And now I've started to rethink my life

Anyways, Welcome!