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Discussion Finn & Rey in Episode IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode IX - Spoilers Allowed' started by Ren Kylo, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    Also apparently some people want Disney to re-release The Force Awakens once Episode IX gets closer, but with the deleted scenes finished and edited in. It would be kinda nice to have the speeder scene in their so that more of the general audience can see a little bit more of Finn standing out when he takes out the enemy speeder with one blaster.
     
  2. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yes, please. Extended cut for TFA and TLJ.
     
  3. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    I mean don't get me wrong I don't need the "Who's Smoke?" scene, but everything else I think would be good (bonus points if they could cut out that god-awful rathtar scene, but that's probably asking for too much).
     
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  4. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Fearless Vampire Killer star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Establishing ANY history between Ben and Han... via the deleted scene of Kylo in the Falcon's cockpit... would add tremendous story value to the film.
     
  5. cerealbox

    cerealbox Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Korr Sella scene.

    So I can actually give a $@&%#, when Hosnian Prime blows up.
     
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  6. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I mean, GL added some scenes to the OT movies. IMO it would make sense to add all the deleted stuff that makes sense to the ST.
    Who cares if the movies are 180 mins instead of ~140 on the BluRay?
     
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  7. Star war

    Star war Jedi Knight star 3

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    Its not just you dude
    I dont think anyone cared when Hosnian Prime blew up.
     
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  8. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    Hosnia Prime was the part where everyone went, "wait a second-" Honestly the cantina didn't bother me at all because there were some like three emotional scenes in it that had purpose. Third death star though And impromptu destruction of major political system? Hooo boy.
     
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  9. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    So the scene where Finn watches Rey kisses him is actually titled "It's kind of weird that you recorded that."

    So I think it'll be like a semi-emotional scene with Finn smiling at it, and then he'll suddenly be like, "Wait what?"
     
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  10. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You don't need to remove that scene...just reshoot it.

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    ....I'm going to guess that RJ cut that for time...but yeah that goes a long way to explaining Finn's determination to ensure Rey dosen't die with the fleet....and serves as a contrast in reaction to the look on his face when Rose kisses him...I really hope RJ wasn't trying to set up some kind of....conflict between Rose and Rey over Finn for the next movie. A subtle romantic touch is fine....but I don't need this to turn into some kind of Anime inspired love dodecahedron.
     
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  11. TheLastHaterOfZero

    TheLastHaterOfZero Jedi Padawan star 1

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    If it hasn't been settled already, it'll most likely be settled amicably, though it could be handled a number of ways. One that could work is that, after getting to know Rey, Rose thinks Rey would need Finn more than she does, since she at least had her sister, while Rey had had no one. She then sends Finn off to go help Rey during the final battle, after Rey pulls a Luke and leaves the group to go take on Supreme Leader Ren by herself or something. People tend to feel bad for the loser in a love triangle, so maybe that would redeem Rose's character after coming out as the Scrappy in TLJ. The alternative could also work with Finn choosing to accept Rose while also acknowledging that Rey is still important to him. IDK, either one can work well if done right, but it has to be done well.
     
  12. Doom_Buggy

    Doom_Buggy Jedi Knight star 2

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    He obviously isn't setting up anything like that since he cut any scenes that remotely compare the two dynamics. He cut the scene of the good bye recording & the scene of Rose mentioning Finn worries about Rey. TLJ isn't setting up a love triangle.

    If it's not depicted in the film, it's not part of the story.
     
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  13. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    Is the BB-8 hologram scene in the novel? Sometimes I like to think it could be part of the story as long as it doesn't contradict anything. Unlike Finn being in the bomber sequence.
     
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  14. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I am not at all a fan of love triangles, I find them ridiculous and stupid, but I would rather have a love triangle than no connection between Finn and Rey at all.
     
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  15. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah. I really don't think we'll get an actual established love triangle between them.

    (SERIOUSLY HOPING WE DON'T IT'S THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME IN THE STORY TO DO SO)

    But if we did, at the very least people wouldn't be able to say that Rey feels nothing towards Finn or that Rey is too good for Finn. Of course that's never been an accurate statement but people will say what they'll say. Don't give them fuel. John and Daisy seem to stan the Finn and Rey dynamic (or at the very least their chemistry) so I'm hoping that plays a part in the story.

    Honestly they're the only pair that both have established feelings for each other. Kylo and Rey definitely isn't a thing at this point, and neither is Finn and Rose. So Finn and Rey still seems like the most reasonable choice for romance. And JJ did a mostly good job with their dynamic in TFA.
     
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  16. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    A love triangle might keep people from complaining that Finn/Rey are “boring” :rolleyes: either. At this point a more accurate argument would be that Finn is too good for Rey, but that can be remedied easily.

    And nothing against Rose at all, I like the character, but I always thought she was more in love with Finn than he with her. Understandable, because Finn is difficult not to love, but I don’t think that he felt that for her in return.
     
  17. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah honestly, I never really saw Finn showing any romantic signs towards Rose at all. Not even acting attracted to her. Not like he was with Rey before. If it weren't for the abrupt kiss (that even Finn was perplexed by) I'm not sure if anyone would really see much potential between them.
     
  18. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The closest you get to romance from Finn towards Rose is him watching over her on the Falcon....as Rey looks on giving a sad smile. That is why a love triangle popped into my mind. Not hard to see Rey misunderstanding Finn's actions towards Rose and Finn not understanding the tension that could grow between Rose and Rey if JJ went in that direction.
     
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  19. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    I probably mentioned it before but it reminds me of on RotJ when Han thought that Leia loved Luke, only to find out that wasn't the case. Again, like you said, a misunderstanding. But Rian did say he left a mess for the next director, so that was probably on purpose. If Finn and Rey spent a significant amount of time together in IX, I wouldn't be surprised if they had that type of interaction similar to RotJ.

    I would hope they didn't focus too much on a love triangle. Nor do I want IX to start out with Finn and Rose in some serious committed relationship with such little development put in.
     
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  20. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    So apparently the new episode of Rebels has Ezra having a sort of "time travel" moment with the Force and you hear more recent voices like Poe and I believe someone mentioned Jyn? I haven't seen the episode myself by they also say that you can hear Rey's voice saying, "We'll see each other again. I believe that."
    Thought that was kinda cute
     
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  21. BalanceOfTheForce

    BalanceOfTheForce Jedi Knight star 3

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    It also had Kylo saying "I'll finish what you started"
     
  22. afrojedi

    afrojedi Jedi Knight star 4

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    And Finn saying "Yeah I mopped that ship too." Just kidding, sorry can't stop typing and clicking post reply.
     
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  23. CrazyOldJedi

    CrazyOldJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    Yep, Filoni has lost it. That's why I'll never consider that crud part of SW.
     
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  24. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    WoooooooW [face_coffee]
    [​IMG]

    @CrazyOldJedi I'll easily accept that as canon over the entirety of TLJ
     
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  25. oncafar

    oncafar Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I feel like this is a classism issue. It seems that people in the upper middle class and higher don't think these sorts of jobs are degrading. Instead they think it is cute or they recall the times they had to do chores and it wasn't fun but they learned valuable lessons! They may argue that people make a living off of such jobs so it's a good thing. They totally miss that this is about power and it's not cute to someone in the working class or in poverty. I wonder if this attitude is in play in the writing.

    I wonder if the people making the story have been poor or had parents suffer through these sorts of jobs...

    It's certainly "cute" when one doesn't clean up after themselves and expects others to do it all for them.
     
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