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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

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    It goes out of its way to say that laser technology predates blaster technology.

    "Uses Focused light to create long ranged, accurate, highly damaging blasts of energy" was the phrase used.

    That might apply to the beam weapons we see in Attack of the Clones- but it doesn't sound much like the weapons we see in the OT.
     
  2. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    It must as Blaster use Lasers ;)

    As part of blaster technology? :confused:
     
  3. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

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    Its contrasted with "Blasters create bolts of concentrated particles".

    Still, I prefer the notion that all the laser does is energize the particles that are fired. It's not "a blast of energy"- it's "a blast of energized particles"

    (that said, with wave-particle duality, people could say the same about true lasers "It's a blast of highly energized particles- photons- which are particles of light").
     
  4. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    We see both heat and kinetic effects whenever turbolasers hit something, so it's safe to say there's a particle-component to the technology.
     
  5. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

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    The line "That was no laser blast, something hit us" is a bit of a hint that, whatever the kinetic effect, it's noticably different than an impact would be.

    I think Saxton's theory was that it's so powerful that it invokes the "Even electromagnetic photons have kinetic energy- though negligible" principle- so if you use enough of them, you'll get an object visibly knocked sideways.
     
  6. Kal Shadaar

    Kal Shadaar Jedi Youngling

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    I need help to identify the ships on this illustration. I can't find them anywhere (except for the Lucrehulk).
     
  7. Kal Shadaar

    Kal Shadaar Jedi Youngling

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    Double post. Sorry.
     
  8. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    They sadly don’t show up anywhere else than this illustration.
     
  9. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The one in the upper left looks like a VERY heavily modified Providence, but beyond that...*shrugs*


    EDIT: Or at least a similar design.
     
  10. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    A heavily modified smaller Providence and I recognize at least two Hutt designs from Galaxies. One is the M22-T Krayt gunship, possibly. There's also two designs (with and without wings) that look like they were made by the same manufacturer.
     
  11. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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  12. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If I remember correctly, this should be before the Providence was invented.
     
  13. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    A predecessor then?

    If this is earlier it makes some sense.
     
  14. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Given the big news from October 30th...

    FLEET JUNKIES, HO!

    So, we have a whole new era ahead of us! We don't know how far post-ROTJ this new Sequel Trilogy will be, but I think it is a sure bet that it will be close enough to the OT that we will still see the the starfighter and capital ship designs we all know and love. The prospect of seeing X-wings, Star Destroyers, and all the other starships we known in full modern CGI glory is really exciting to me. Considering how iconic these designs are, I can't imagine the new Sequel Trilogy not having them, but I suppose time will tell.

    So, what designs from the OT are you most excited to see in the ST? Secondly, what are your favorite EU designs that you would love to see in the ST?

    For me personally, of all the OT designs, I would say the X-wing and the MC80a wingless cruisers are the two designs I am most excited to see. In terms of the Expanded Universe, I would love to see E-wings and Assault Frigates.

    What are you all excited for?

    --Adm. Nick
     
  15. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    My username and sig should make a couple fairly obvious :p

    OT: X-Wing, and Home One-style Mon Cal Cruiser

    EU: Vic-Star, and K-Wing.
     
  16. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Honestly? Nothing, just put your SW fandom on hold for 2-3 years and if Disney doesn’t torpedo everything by then, just come back, otherwise it stopped having a point anyway and it will be a dead franchise rotten from within like Star Trek.
     
  17. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Err...don't you mean Disney?

    And really, they aren't stupid, I don't see them doing anything that stupid. They know well enough that if SW VII doesn't blow it out of the park then the rest of the movies aren't going to do well.
     
  18. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Sorry so used to Marvel torpedoing stuff in general

    Wait and see, if they don’t mess it up one can always come back and catch up, if they do, what’s done with is done with. Somehow the whole new movie thing just expanded the „I don’t even care anymore“ feeling that LOTF/FOTJ brought up for me onto all of SW.
     
  19. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I just watched the latest episode of TCW. Awesome new CEC starship design shown. Elements of the CR90 corvette, but with a awesome engine arrangement and a wider bow. I really like the vessel. I can't tell if it is newer than a CR90 or maybe an older design. Either way, it was wicked cool!

    --Adm. Nick
     
  20. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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  21. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Looks kind of like a mix between Consular and the classic Corellian corvette, though I think it might get a databank entry with the episode guide.
     
  22. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    It looked both older, yet sleeker, than the CR-series corvettes. Very weird. Also very 1970s ILM concept design-ish. I liked it a lot.
    Also shades of KOTOR and especially the Axehead.

    I also hear the new TOR novel has alternate designations for TOR ship designs, including [hl=black]CR12 corvette for the militarized version of the Wanderer-class transport (the Thranta-class's little cousin).[/hl]
     
  23. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    Ok, the new concept art for the Crucible shows the head is a horisontal version of the one on the Hammerhead-class. I wonder if it's meant to be from the KOTOR era or older?
     
  24. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    Edit: Double post.
     
  25. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Interesting. I alos notice that the Crucible appears to have signs of outward damage. One would hope that the Jedi Order puts proper maintenence into a vessel that transports children. :p

    But yeah, I am digging the retro vibe on that vessel.

    --Adm. Nick