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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Also the reason the Imperials dropped them faster then a hot potato.
     
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  2. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    In Tales of the Jedi and other comics we see ‘ships with sail like things on them. Do we know what they were used for? Speed? Stability? Manoeuvrability? Sensors? Something with hyperspace travel?
     
  3. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Energy collection I think, like TIE Fighter wings.
     
  4. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Could actually be solar sails like the Gree sometimes use and from whom Dooku also bought one.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Solar_sailer
     
  5. King of Alsakan

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  6. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    Gosh, I feel dumb, but I just realized the OWS entry for the "Alderaan Cruiser" has a fantastic pic of the ROTJ CR90 gunship variant

    I knew it had a turbolaser mounted on either side; what I did not realize was, the primary upper dual-turret has been replaced by a quad-turret. Other weaponry seems similar to Tantive IV--still not clear on what makes it 25 meters longer than Tantive IV, though. However, does the designation "Alderaan cruiser" indicate the gunship variant CR90s at Endor ARE the same as the "Alderaanian gunships"--I still have not read Razor's Edge so do not know if such a recton is possible.

    remeber the Imperials rely on Nebulon-B merely as escort ships, but to Rebels these are one of their main line ships, so it makes sense they'd try to modify them to pack more punch, and I assume the modified version packs more forward turbolasers.
     
  7. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Radiators for waste-heat.
     
  8. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I was just checking some ship-stats on wookiepedia and thought my eyes would pop out, as I read the crew-numbers for the Acclamator II http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acclamator_II-class_assault_ship with 20,140 spacers and the Class-II-frigate http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_II-class_frigate with 19,899 crewers.

    For comparison, your standard 900 meter long Victory-SD has a crew of 4,798 spacers, the Venator with a length of 1,137 meters has a crew of 7,400 men, a sixhundred meter long Vindicator-class cruiser 2,551 men and a 450 meter long Strike-cruiser 1,972 crew-members, so what happened?

    I mean I could somehow understand the Acc-II numbers, if they made an extrapolation from the Dreadnought-class heavy cruiser (despite it being a contemporary of much less crew-intensive Victory- and Venator-SDs), but the Class-II-frigate? Is there simply a comma in the wrong place or what?
     
  9. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Are they counting crew and passengers/troops?
     
  10. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    Guess the Republic and Empire needed to fill out the work force somehow. ;)
     
  11. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    In all seriousness though, that probably does include troops and such. There is no reason that an Acc (of any mark) should need as many people as a Dreadnought which are notoriously crew-heavy.
     
  12. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If you'd followed the links I included on the right side of the main article is a section with "product information" and "technical specifications", which lists details such as those. ;)

    The numbers in my last post are crew only.
     
  13. Skywalker_T-65

    Skywalker_T-65 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Why? An Acc shouldn't have that many people...
     
  14. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  15. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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  16. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Master star 4

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    Never seen the last one before, pretty cool. Goes well the Colossus. It looks to be bigger than any of Earth's historical flat-tops at the very least.
     
  17. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Master star 5

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    I am not really familiar with the three from Dark Empire, though I have read it and do have it.

    I am however very familiar with the Doomgiver, and I believe that if they ever bother to establish some stats for the All Terrain Rapid Deployment Pods (AT-RDPs) she carried, which shouldn't be that difficult considering each one carried up to four AT-STs, then establishing solid dimensions should be relatively simple with some proper analysis of her appearance in Jedi Knight II.
     
  18. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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  19. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    If I am doing my math right and the X-wing is 12.5m long, the AT-RDP would be about 38.26m tall?
     
  20. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    They properly tried but given that most are Dark Empire they properly went blind looking at the page to long. :p
     
  21. Grand Admiral Paxis

    Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Master star 3

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    If you check the Talk page on the Doomgiver's article on Wookieepedia, you can see a couple of attempts by people to do estimates on its size. The problem is that everyone seems to be getting different estimates, and its seemingly massive size during cutscenes doesn't match up with their scaling so it's hard to tell. :p
     
  22. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    Plus, the concept art was changed for the actual game. :p

    All we know is that the Doomgiver is stated to be a Star Destroyer in the Complete Encyclopedia.
     
  23. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, but is it Gladiator-class Star Destroyer-sized or Executor-class Star Destroyer-sized? :D

    The way some sources use the SD-moniker, the term is as useless as the description "cruiser".
     
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  24. DarthCane

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  25. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    While the Torpedo Sphere's listed size is 1,900 km, it appears on the scale diagram in Death Star Owner's Workshop Manual, to be about long as the Eye of Palpatine (but slightly less bulky)

    Maybe they missed a zero out- and it should be 19,000km?
     
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