Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    Also the reason the Imperials dropped them faster then a hot potato.
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  2. Gamiel Force Ghost

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    In Tales of the Jedi and other comics we see ‘ships with sail like things on them. Do we know what they were used for? Speed? Stability? Manoeuvrability? Sensors? Something with hyperspace travel?
  3. MercenaryAce Force Ghost

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    Energy collection I think, like TIE Fighter wings.
  4. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    Could actually be solar sails like the Gree sometimes use and from whom Dooku also bought one.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Solar_sailer
  5. King of Alsakan Force Ghost

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  6. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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    Gosh, I feel dumb, but I just realized the OWS entry for the "Alderaan Cruiser" has a fantastic pic of the ROTJ CR90 gunship variant

    I knew it had a turbolaser mounted on either side; what I did not realize was, the primary upper dual-turret has been replaced by a quad-turret. Other weaponry seems similar to Tantive IV--still not clear on what makes it 25 meters longer than Tantive IV, though. However, does the designation "Alderaan cruiser" indicate the gunship variant CR90s at Endor ARE the same as the "Alderaanian gunships"--I still have not read Razor's Edge so do not know if such a recton is possible.

    remeber the Imperials rely on Nebulon-B merely as escort ships, but to Rebels these are one of their main line ships, so it makes sense they'd try to modify them to pack more punch, and I assume the modified version packs more forward turbolasers.
  7. FTeik Force Ghost

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    Radiators for waste-heat.
  8. FTeik Force Ghost

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    I was just checking some ship-stats on wookiepedia and thought my eyes would pop out, as I read the crew-numbers for the Acclamator II http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acclamator_II-class_assault_ship with 20,140 spacers and the Class-II-frigate http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_II-class_frigate with 19,899 crewers.

    For comparison, your standard 900 meter long Victory-SD has a crew of 4,798 spacers, the Venator with a length of 1,137 meters has a crew of 7,400 men, a sixhundred meter long Vindicator-class cruiser 2,551 men and a 450 meter long Strike-cruiser 1,972 crew-members, so what happened?

    I mean I could somehow understand the Acc-II numbers, if they made an extrapolation from the Dreadnought-class heavy cruiser (despite it being a contemporary of much less crew-intensive Victory- and Venator-SDs), but the Class-II-frigate? Is there simply a comma in the wrong place or what?
  9. AdmiralWesJanson Chosen One

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    Are they counting crew and passengers/troops?
  10. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    Guess the Republic and Empire needed to fill out the work force somehow. ;)
  11. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    In all seriousness though, that probably does include troops and such. There is no reason that an Acc (of any mark) should need as many people as a Dreadnought which are notoriously crew-heavy.
  12. FTeik Force Ghost

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    If you'd followed the links I included on the right side of the main article is a section with "product information" and "technical specifications", which lists details such as those. ;)

    The numbers in my last post are crew only.
  13. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    Why? An Acc shouldn't have that many people...
  14. FTeik Force Ghost

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    My thoughts exactly.
  15. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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  16. King of Alsakan Force Ghost

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  17. Zeta1127 Force Ghost

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    I am not really familiar with the three from Dark Empire, though I have read it and do have it.

    I am however very familiar with the Doomgiver, and I believe that if they ever bother to establish some stats for the All Terrain Rapid Deployment Pods (AT-RDPs) she carried, which shouldn't be that difficult considering each one carried up to four AT-STs, then establishing solid dimensions should be relatively simple with some proper analysis of her appearance in Jedi Knight II.
  18. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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  19. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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  20. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    They properly tried but given that most are Dark Empire they properly went blind looking at the page to long. :p
  21. Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Grand Master

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    If you check the Talk page on the Doomgiver's article on Wookieepedia, you can see a couple of attempts by people to do estimates on its size. The problem is that everyone seems to be getting different estimates, and its seemingly massive size during cutscenes doesn't match up with their scaling so it's hard to tell. :p
  22. Tzizvvt78 Force Ghost

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    Plus, the concept art was changed for the actual game. :p

    All we know is that the Doomgiver is stated to be a Star Destroyer in the Complete Encyclopedia.
  23. FTeik Force Ghost

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    Yeah, but is it Gladiator-class Star Destroyer-sized or Executor-class Star Destroyer-sized? :D

    The way some sources use the SD-moniker, the term is as useless as the description "cruiser".
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  24. DarthCane Force Ghost

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  25. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    While the Torpedo Sphere's listed size is 1,900 km, it appears on the scale diagram in Death Star Owner's Workshop Manual, to be about long as the Eye of Palpatine (but slightly less bulky)

    Maybe they missed a zero out- and it should be 19,000km?
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