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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Tied

    Tied Jedi Knight star 1

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    So any back to ships

    What would you guys say are the major design philosophy differences between Imperial ( i would say rebel but thats to broad) and NewRepublic/Mon Calamari ships

    I guess one i can think of off the top of my head are weapons, Imperials focusing on Turbos and Missiles (in some cases missiles) and "Rebels" focusing on Ion tech
     
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    I don't know about capital ships - but at the starfighter level it seems to be the Rebels that specialize in torpedo-armed and missile-armed ships - and the Empire that tends to prefer lasers only.

    Empire starfighter with ion cannon, missiles, or torps tend to be rare and advanced (the TIE Defender was one of those).
     
  3. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Check out this gem from FFG:

    [​IMG]

    Other than the green turbolasers, that is one awesome pic. Nice to see a Mon Cal cruiser firing a furious frontal barrage.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  4. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We never saw the Independence shoot, so, yay, green.
     
  5. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    But when will they have a card for the pride of the fleet, the MonCal cruiser Stimsenj'kat?
     
  6. anotherdemon

    anotherdemon Jedi Knight star 2

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    That's pretty awesome artwork, and I like the forward firing. It reminds me of Trench's Invincible.
     
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  7. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just got my copy of the Rebels:Visual Guide, here are some quick notes:

    - Plenty of mentions of CEC, Kuat Drive Yards, and Sienar
    - Looks like the standard fare for the TIE fighter and Star Destroyer entries
    - Unfortunately no mentions of anything bigger than a ISD or really other large capital ships, most just freighters and shuttles
    - A Star Destroyer is listed as an Imperial-I, 1,600 meters
    - The Inquisitor's starfighter is a TIE Advanced v1 prototype
    - Typical blaster and thermal detonator stuff, I am happy baradium gets a mention:)

    Overall looks like some EU references here and there for sure. On a non-technical note, Kessel looks like a regular planet and has a royal family. I will read in full over the next few days see if there is another cool technical tidbits.
     
  8. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Did it mention what model of ship the Ghost is?
     
  9. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    VCX-100, been known since last Autumn.

    About larger Imperial ships, we'll either never see them (like with the Republic in TCW) or they'll be in a few select arcs (like with the CIS).
     
  10. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Made by the CEC, Modified VCX-100 light frieghter

    I concur, but always hoping for a mention.

    On my part they did call the Gozanti-class a cruiser, though its a freighter, 63.8 meters long
     
  11. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I like the v1 instead of x1 for the Inquisitor's TIE. :cool:

    Was that Devaronian's ship a heavily modified Gozanti?
     
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  12. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    EDIT:

    It sure is, a little bit longer at 70 meters, 72.8 meters. Its says the Gozanti is used by multiple factions
     
  13. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Interesting, since they are one of the (smaller) capital ships in Age of Rebellion:

    "Powerful and reliable, the CEC/Gallofree Yards Gozanti-class armed transport is a cruiser-sized vessel used by numerous private and governmental organizations as a bulk cargo carrier and convoy escort. In service since the Clone Wars, these vessels are classified strictly as civilian ships and licensed to carry military-grade weaponry through different grandfathered laws that allow for private organizations to protect their own shipping."

    Most likely it was included because the old SAGA Starship guide indicated the Rebel Alliance used them, but that's still a nice coincidence.

    TIE Advanced that early? Eh, that makes Vader's usage of one in ANH a little less special if the model was 5 years old, but whatever.
     
  14. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Its refereed to as a freighter almost everywhere except under "class" Gozanti-class cruiser. At least so far from what I noticed.

    On the TIE Advanced thing they at least differentiate that its an v1 not an x1, so that makes it a bit better. I would of hoped for a better name too. It has shields and hyperdrive.

    There is a starship size chart, pretty much an ISD-I against the smaller freighters and a TIE fighter. Also one for ground vehicles as well like the AT-DP, ITT, and various speeder bikes.

    Also the ITT's are made by Ubrikkian Industries, a nice touch.
     
  15. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    AoR lists the "hull type" as "armed transport", but it falls under the "cruiser" category (in the Anaxes System sense of usage - the "gunship/cruiser/battleship" nomenclature). Similarly, the YV-929 armed transport shows up under "gunships".

    So, is it meant to be a different ship than Vader's? I wasn't objecting to earlier TIE Advanced models, but that the model Vader was flying was 5 years old.
     
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  16. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah unless this is a crazy artistic license thing, I would think they are definitely different starfighters. It didn't get its own page unfortunately just a quick blurb. Looks like the toy picture, more compact than the TIE x1 Advanced and more curvature on the solar collectors.
     
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  17. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The v1 looked smaller than the x1, with some flatter spurs that might hold the hyperdrive.
     
  18. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This make sense. Visually, it was similar enough to the ISD-I from the movie that I am happy they went this route. Artistic license is still a thing, afterall. :p

    Any info on the actual Rebellion in the guide?

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  19. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No not really, mostly character background info. Zeb was probably the most interesting one. Some info about vehicles, ships, weapons, Lothal (who have their own calender system), and Kessel.

    Military/Tech wise the only other thing I saw was that as expected Stormtroopers are mostly natural born citizens and there looks to be no differentiation between them and the Imperial Army. They talk about the ISB as well, and Agent Kallus commands the ISD Lawbringer with a complement of 72 TIEs and 9,700 Stormtroopers.
     
  20. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Poor Imperial Army..... only WEG (and the other RPGs) ever seemed to believe that it wasn't made up of stormtroopers.
     
  21. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    "Less prominent [than the Imperial Navy], but still widely feared, is the Imperial Army, which many erroneously believe includes the independent Stormtrooper Corps."
    "The common citizen of the galaxy will never see a Star Destroyer or a stormtrooper in person, if they are fortunate. For the majority of those who never leave a planet's surface, the Imperial Army trooper is the face of the Empire."
    - p. 418, AoR main rulebook
    ;)
     
  22. Tied

    Tied Jedi Knight star 1

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    ^:)^ Now if only they give us a decent picture of one, you know with like Combat gear like a regular soldier instead of a janitor with a gun and helmet Disney will officially be on my good side

    P.S. something like this-

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  23. seeker_two

    seeker_two Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd figured that Stormtroopers were more like Army Rangers or Marines....a large specialty force within the Imperial Military.

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  24. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I concur, if the Imperial Army carries on in some fashion I hope they get a significant armor upgrade. I would also like to see some more stormtrooper variants as well, maybe some heavy infantry.
     
  25. Tied

    Tied Jedi Knight star 1

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    I picked up #2 of Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir

    Some Mandolrian ships make a cameo, the dagger shaped ones (i cant remember the name) but unless they came out of TCW Im pretty sure they originated in the Old Republic era which would show the Mandolarians habbit of using older tech as-long as it is theirs

    Also we see some Black sun Gozanti's and the CIS regulars (Munificent etc.) it does show C-9979 landing crafts traveling in hyperspace, of course the wiki states that they dont have a hyperdrive, this was Grevious' taskforce so he might of modified them for rapid deployment OR to give more space in the Lucrehulks more room for fighters (keep in mind that Grevious crippled his own ship for ship-to-ship combat just to stuff more fighters in so this could be a regular trait)