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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm glad that we all seem to be able to come together and make fun of Krennic's shuttle.
     
  2. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh my God, if they bring World Devastators into Episode 9, my heart may stop in the excitement of it.

    Really, when I think about it the Supremacy is like a trade off for a World Devastator. It's a mobile command center where they build and repair their ships. It also has the benefit of being the "capital" of the First Order.

    Still, I would love World Devastators to make an appearance. It's all we need now to complete the whole "Sequel trilogy is just a retelling of the Dark Empire trilogy" thing.
     
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  3. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Having semi-automated mobile production forces like a WD would be an effective way for the FO to do their damage across a wider range of territory without requiring additional man power.
     
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  4. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Master star 4

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    I seriously doubt the First Order even considered having more than one major production factory, considering Snoke and Hux's mentalities in that direction.
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Not on a large scale for the fleet, no- but a “drop off a WD or two, check back Tuesday” tactic would fit their blitzkreig approach, since it would allow them to have military presence/offense on minor targets while their SDs focus on taking and holding the major ones.
     
  6. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    I could see that...drop off a WD...have it pump out a bunch of TIE drones for defense and do it's thing to soften up the defenses then come back with a few SDs and finish them off.
     
  7. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The First Order has hidden factories and shipyards throughout the Unknown Regions. To say nothing of the various subsidiaries of major corporations that support them openly in the New Territories. I don't see them having a problem of having too many eggs in one basket, they have had over two decades to prepare for this war.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  8. TheRedBlade

    TheRedBlade Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't see it as completed Star Destroyers, but the raw materials to make one.

    This is now what I believe happened on Otomak.
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I meant that, after the WD softened up or terrorized a minor target, the FO would then send in their SDs later on. Not that the WDs would build SDs.
     
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  10. Resistance_Man

    Resistance_Man Jedi Youngling

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    Not sure if y'all have talked about this yet, but have you seen? Rebels is going to re-introduce Dreadnought-class Heavy Cruisers into canon!!! So happy, these were one of my favorite ships in the EU!
     
  11. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    Lol. Yeah a few pages ago we were communally hyperventilating over that. The hype is real
     
  12. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 4

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    They'll mess it up somehow, I know it. It will be the size of a shuttle or something silly like that.
     
  13. Resistance_Man

    Resistance_Man Jedi Youngling

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    God, I hope not...
     
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  14. Fire Dog

    Fire Dog Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Well that Dreadnaught got as much screen time in the show as it did in that teaser . The finale was pretty good. Would have loved to see the Alliance Fleet led by Home One or the Profundity at the end instead but thats ok. Seeing the T-6 Shuttle again at the end was cool
     
  15. Star_Desperado

    Star_Desperado Jedi Knight star 3

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    For anybody interested.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 4

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    Well one thing about it bugs me straight away. The Dreadnought's bridge location is not meant to be obvious from the outside, and shouldn't have any windows. They've made it look like the experimental version of the Intercity Advanced Passenger Train from the 70's.
    [​IMG]

    Next to Fractal Sponge's Dreadnought it looks terrible.
    http://fractalsponge.net/?p=1701
     
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  17. Long Snoot

    Long Snoot Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think that the lack of "organic features" and the shape of the engines make it look more imperial-ish than Fractal Sponge's.
     
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  18. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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  19. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    Well it was made by the Republic in Legends, so Fractal's design make a lot of sense. I would not be surprised if in canon it still is from the late Clone Wars, but this is a slightly more modern build
     
  20. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 4

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    I see no dark grey section or bridge windows on that picture.

    From wookieepedia:
    "Unlike many contemporary warship designs, the Dreadnaught-class did not have an easily visible bridge section, opting to shelter the command decks and crew stations inside the main armored superstructure. These areas were located on the dorsal side of the bow."
     
  21. Sarchet

    Sarchet Jedi Knight star 2

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    According to the asset title block, it's not a combatant any more. Just a support ship, maybe a fleet replenishment vessel or an oiler.
     
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  22. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    The front now looks like a Y-85 Titan or a Theta-class barge, which is appropriate, it's an Imperial vessel.
     
  23. Long Snoot

    Long Snoot Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Organic designs would fit the Separatist navy more than the Republic one (which in canon, is mostly made of triangular Kuati ships), but I guess that's because the dreadnought was designed years before AotC came out. Still, I think Fractal did a pretty good job in reimagining the Legends design.
    About the bridge, it's presence doesn't really bug me. It always seemed a bit weird to me that an old ship such as the Dreadnought class would not have a weak spot that even the Executor (and, more recently, the Mega-class) would have. Still, I wish they didn't make the opening in the front so big, especially considering how small the bridge is by comparison.
     
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  24. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Knight star 1

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    If those windows are the same size as the ones on the Star destroyers, then she’s still a big’ish ship

    I agree with what some other posters have said, the redesign makes it looks more like Republic/imperial ship.
     
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  25. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Master star 4

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    I can forgive alterations to the design. Keep in mind in Legends the Dreadnought Heavy Cruiser has went through many 'localized' alterations, so we might be seeing Thrawn's fleet's personalized variant of it. Remember that the Separatist Providence design was based upon the Dreadnought platform.
     
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