TCW Episode For Discussion of Old TCW episodes...

I'm a couple of days late on this one, but based on what I've observed regarding our political system, it could happen with few if any repercussions if the "reasoning" was believable. "No funding," "there is a more efficient way to do this," "we don't want the backlash from interfering in local affairs," etc. I could especially see it happening with a Senator from the party opposing the President.

The Trade Federation and the Separatists have always seemed like a grotesque caricature of our actual political system to me. Monsanto and Goldman Sachs may not have an actual Senate box but if the companies funnel millions of dollars into politicians' campaigns, there isn't much difference.

So I have been going through TCW the past few weeks doing a rewatch. Watched the Nightsisters trilogy from Season 3 today. One big error I noticed and which wasn't resolved: Anakin and Obi-Wan have their lightsabers taken from them when they go to speak to Mother Talzin. They then run out of the room after finding out where Opress is without their lightsabers on their belts or having got them back... And then in the next scene when they fight Opress, they have them! Quite a big error I thought but it doesn't prevent me from enjoying those episodes! Just something I noticed!

Not the first time that has happened in TCW: in "The Gungan General" Obi-Wan's lightsaber also magically appears when he and Anakin take Hondo hostage despite the fact that he arrived without it. It's been a while since I last saw the episode but they likely retrieved their lightsabers on the way out of Talzin's home or maybe the witches that took them had placed them on board the ship...

That was another one I noticed to!

Two more animation mistakes too: In A Necessary Bond at the end in the ship, one second Obi-Wan's lightsaber is on his belt, the next it isn't, and there it is again. They really do seem to forget lightsabers especially since he uses it seconds later! And there was another animation mistake in A Sunny Place in the Void, where they forgot to animate one of the droids into the frame despite the fact it was clearly there a second ago, and then it appears again.

The same thing happens in the movies. Or at least in ROTS. The production team must take "How to Lose Your Lightsaber 101" by Anakin and Ahsoka.

It is an animation mistake but the moment is important and people usually do not notice them.

I like to pretend that Dogma ate one of the pistols and shot Krell with the other.

i dont have cable so i buy the season sets once they come out. im behind, as i havent bought s4 or seen any of s5, so this tread is great! so, from what i understand, the last couple seasons have taken a dive in quality, huh? hmm...gotta catch up! but anyway, season 1 is AWESOME! def my fave so far...

Happens all the time in movies and tv shows

It does... there is even a nice web site where such bloopers are noted. it is quite awesome!

Grievous Intrigue

I think the best episode of Season 2, and indeed the show, Grievous Intrigue is a great example of how to do multiple things:

• Show the Clone Wars (something later seasons seem to have forgotten how to do)
• Display Grievous as rightly competent, as a tactician and as a fighter
• Introduce new ships and characters - Koth, Gallia, Grievous' modified flagship etc.
• Create intriguing multi-faceted battles
• Actually funny humour (see: the Tactical droid)

However, the decision to not kill Eeth Koth in this episode (or in its follow up) really erked me, especially given Filoni's comment that he looked too cool to kill and the later abandonment of the character. Furthermore, this presented yet another Grievous vs. Kenobi duel - which shouldn't even happen before RotS - yet the exciting albeit Gallia vs. Grievous duel makes up for this repetition.
10/10

The arc of C&M, THE, and the first 1/4 of the film makes for a better solid story than the movie IMO, but I'm very anti-Ziro.

Uncle Paul!

Maybe we should have the whole community watch the movie and have both discussion and grading threads?

I like that idea.

Am i the only one who loves every episode with Satine in it?

IMO, the movie deserves better than a 6/10. More like a 8/10. Some of the antics between "Stinky" and Ahsoka were a bit much and too cutesy.
However, it's in the movie that Ahsoka first asks Anakin about his past on Tatooine and he shuts her down fast: this is a key moment in their relationship.
I'd also say that the banter between them is more akin to Han and Leia banter. You thinks she's annoying in the movie, but since she has currently toned it down, now you think she's boring. You're not giving her much leeway either way.
The battles were well done. I really like the Octuptarra droids.
Ventress is a great villainess and played exceptionally well by Nika Futterman. Obi-Wan was typically suave and unflappable.
And for 2008, the visuals and graphics (while not up to Pixar quality for the time) were very well done.

I watched Corruption and The Academy today. Yeah, I like Satine a lot, and I liked how she treated Korkie (another character I liked).

Random thoughts on the movie:

--I didn't find Ahsoka annoying other than her use of the word "Skyguy." I did, however, find it hilarious that Anakin found her so annoying. And yes, I believe her character has developed for the worse over the course of the series. She was much more fun here and in the first two seasons.
--Yoda's reasoning for giving her to Anakin as a Padawan raised red flags in my mind regarding how Anakin and Ahsoka's relationship might end, because giving Anakin another person to whom to get attached, in order to teach him not to get attached, is just ridiculously bass-ackwards. The only way Anakin wasn't going to get attached is to grow a different personality.
--The conversation between Anakin and Ahsoka on Tatooine. Ahsoka was of course naive, thinking that Anakin would be glad to go "home," and Anakin shut her down with good reason. The novelization for the movie goes into more detail about how much guilt he feels over the Tusken slaughter. "Old sins cast long shadows" is a great line, however.
--Cooperating with a Hutt in order to get access to Hutt-owned hyperspace lanes. Just another reminder of how disgusted I am by the ass-kissing involved in politics.
--Ventress is one of few villains that I've ever liked. Loved her here.
--Ah, Padme, Padme, thinking that any scumbag can be swayed by a "diplomatic solution." She managed to get herself into a mess, but to her credit it did eventually work. And I enjoyed the eye-sex that she and Anakin exchanged across the hologram. I wish we had seen them together even for one scene though; we got more in the microseries with her waving goodbye in the window.

"Old sins cast long shadows": One of my favorite quotes. And it's a quote by Ahsoka who is actually quoting Yoda. I'll have to check out that novelization as well.
I have to disagree with your analysis of the attachment thing however. There's really no way for Anakin to learn how to let someone go unless he first becomes attached to someone. He was attached to his mother and did not learn how to release that attachment. I'm not sure if Anakin is attached to Obi-Wan. Yoda is unaware of Anakin's attachment to Padme. So, from Yoda's perspective, (in my opinion anyhow) he is observing Anakin not learning how to let someone go. Thus, in giving him a padawan (to whom he will likely get attached), he can then learn how to let that person go.

I think Yoda does know about Anakin's attachment to both Obi-Wan and Padme. Obi-Wan is obvious (he's like my father!), imo. When Obi-Wan and Anakin are arguing about Padme on the gunship, Yoda is listening and is concerned. Also, Obi-Wan knows about Padme, Anakin told him about his obsession with her on the elevator.

So I think Yoda already knows of two attachments Anakin has, so why not just separate Anakin and Obi-Wan? If they're worried about Anakin's attachment issues, why are they keeping them together?

Giving Anakin an attachment is like giving a crack addict a big ol pile of crack. It's a recipe for disaster, the Council is really playing with fire here.

Clearly two people, Yoda and Obi-Wan, are aware that Anakin has serious attachment issues. Obi-Wan knows about Padme (a relationship), but not the extent (marriage). Yoda knew about the slaughter, I'm positive, and he saw Padme fly into Anakin's arms arm on Geonosis. Do you think Yoda is trying to make the best of an awkward situation? And trying to spare Senator Amidala's reputation. If the Council formally addresses the situation, then they are obligated to put an end to their relationship and separate Padme and Anakin. And if they do that (on the show), Anakin would surely choose Padme, right?

Edit: CT, are we on the same page or what?!