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Rewatched the Mon Calamari trilogy tonight and it is as bad as I remember. Besides Fisto, the beautiful undersea animation, which is in all honesty amazing, and Tamson(though generic CIS villain) I have nothing really positive to say about it.

There was really no reason for them to visit Mon Calamari IMO though, should of opened Season 4 like this but on another planet without the Prince/King crap(similar to Ryloth or/and Geonosis).

The Prince might be the worst character TCW has ever created.

 

The Prince felt extremely generic to me, devoid of any unique characteristics. And the first episode has two pet peeves of mine that prevent me from counting it (and thus the whole arc) in my canon, Ackbar's ultra-lame "teach them a lesson in manners" line as he's about to get violent in the middle of a political dispute (zero self-control from a future admiral?), and of course that moment where Anakin can't use the Force to retrieve his breathing apparatus from a couple feet away and has to be saved by, of all characters, Ahsoka.

 

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That's interesting. I like to hear what people hated about this arc. The helmet thing was rage-inducing. I have trouble watching this arc, because of how many situations and scenes are in the second and third eps. I really don't like that tornado sequence. I'd rather just skip to the final battle, thanks. Is there any chance you saw the deleted scene on the BR? I really liked the stuff with the giant clam - it reminded me of the Sorting Hat.

 

I like to think the eel is a Big Trouble in Little China reference. Probably not, though. Would love to get an answer on that.

 

Hah. I adore the clones but have never really found them attractive and thats not to say cartoon characters can't be hot. TCW needs more men with long, dark hair (my weakness) to pick my interest.

 

Well Gregor kinda was. I liked the beard. =b

Really I find Krismo is be among the most attractive guys in TCW in a really exotic way. Love his hair! I want to pull it. <<;

 

It's gold. For gold leader. Of gold squadron?

I found it amusing the last time I watched it.

 

Dooku Captured

I guess the idea of Anakin trying to hunt down Dooku is pretty solid, too bad they didn't stick with that.

Kenobi just floating on up to the CIS ship, entering through an airlock and strolling through the corridors was just beyond my ability swallow.

That's followed up by Anakin and Kenobi not sensing each other in the Force. Later, Anakin is following Dooku down a shaft, loses sight of him, comes up on a fork in the path and can't tell which path Dooku took. What happened to Jedi instincts? These little things add up in annoyance, especially the non-existent Force.

Dooku sitting in meditation was kinda cool, it was Jedi-like. I'm not saying Sith don't meditate, it just seems more like something Jedi do, and with Dooku being a former Jedi I thought it was a nice touch to his character.

Dooku got to show off his mastery of the Force by collapsing the ceiling of the cave. I think he should use more telekinesis, he spams Force lightning way too much.

The Kowakian monkey-lizard was slightly amusing, nothing more. I don't worship Lord Kowak the way some do, so it didn't do a lot for me.

Kenobi and Anakin pelting a Gundark with rocks was cool, nice to see them using the Force so offensively, it was like something the microseries would do.

I like the flying saucers. They don't really fit the pirates, but they're still cool.

I just can't buy Dooku getting captured by pirates, regardless of how it happened. When I think of the Clone Wars, what happened in between AOTC and ROTS, this just didn't happen.

How can Sidious even tolerate Dooku after getting captured by pirates?

Anakin and Kenobi do not sense the deception or danger involved with their drinks? More absence of the Force.

I want to give this episode a 1, but I guess the monkey lizard, the drinking, the overall absurdity of this episode is so silly I'm compelled to give it a 3/10.

Gungan General

Not much to say. More Jar Jar foolishness. BJ Hughes was terrible. I guess the rhinos were cool, the astromechs with frickin blasters attached to their heads were cool and Dooku forcing that pirate to shoot his friend before crushing his throat with the Force was pretty wicked.

Another thing I cannot buy: Anakin and Obi-Wan and Dooku in the same room together without trying to kill each other. Just wouldn't happen, regardless.

1/10

Not sure why I watched these episodes.

 

Me too

 

I like the Spoof Wars version better:

Ahsoka: "Master, look, a new droid arrived!

Anakin: "Who peed on it?"

Ahsoka: "What? No, it's a gold droid! For gold leader.. (Anakin walks away) .. of brown squadron.."

 

The power of Hondo Ohnaka is too strong for even you to avoid (and surprisingly, you did not mention him).

 

That's because I'm not a fan of Hondo.

 

Well, even though you're not a fan, I think you at least could have mentioned him and your opinion on the character, much seeing as this was his first appearance on the show.

 

I didn't find him noteworthy.

 

Hondo had gotten over exposed at this point.

 

I think Hondo is one of the noteworthy exceptions on the show recently. I always liked him a lot more than Cad Bane, and he stands out amongst mostly boring TCW-exclusive characters.

 

I enjoy him better now, probably because I think his S5 episodes are better than Dooku Captured/The Gungan General.

 

That duology annoys me because I really enjoy the first part, but then Jar Jar comes barging in and ruins the second.

Hondo's two appearances in Season 2 were both great; "Bounty Hunters" and "Lethal Trackdown". Especially his remark to Aurra about Boba, "Not mine I take it?"