Amph For Justice, For Peace, For the Future- We Have Come Home: Babylon 5

Discussion in 'Community' started by The2ndQuest, Jan 3, 2006.

  1. Mudball Jedi Youngling

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    Has there been any word on a Lost Tales vol 2 being released? I know it was supposed to be about Garibaldi but I haven't yeard anything about vol. 2 in nearly 10 months or so. :(
  2. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    The last mention was that there were talks prior to the WGA strike last fall, and that JMS had suggested they move plans along if they wanted to beat the strike. The suits didn't want to be pressured, not believing there would be a strike.

    JMS has also been very busy with the onslaught of big movie offers ever since he sold The Changeling to Ron Howard. Hopefully we'll hear something next year, maybe.
  3. Sniper_Wolf Jedi Master

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    So I'm done with season three.



    • The pseduo-trilogy showing B5 secession and "War Without End" are the seasons highlights.

      Marcus is a great addition to the cast.

      Vir is still a great foil to Londo. Also saw he went to the same health salon Leland Adama went to lose a massive amount of weight in such a short time.

      Refa's death was hilarious.

      Tron just has this thing about him when he's angry.



    All in all B5 so far has been a show that keeps getting better each season. I hope season four keeps the pace up.
  4. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    [face_laugh] "(insert start of any sentence) straight to hell." ;)

    Season 4 delivers quite well. They definitely hit their stride by then, and it's pretty much all big arc stuff, so it's pretty packed, but in a good way (though Season 5 suffers due the necessity of doing so).
  5. Sniper_Wolf Jedi Master

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    Speaking of Tron I just heard him bellow "Get the hell out of our galaxy!" Interesting twist on how the Shadows and Vorlons are showned to be different sides of the same coin instead of "We're angels, you're the spawn of Satan." Gotta give props for the guy who played Cartagia. Great work for only five episodes.
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  6. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Yeah, Cartagia worked out very well- the whole Centauri plot in general, really.
  7. mandragora Jedi Master

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    This was posted by JMS to the moderated newsgroup today:

    One final note re: recent discussions on TMoS and more Lost Tales.

    B5:TLT was commissioned at a $2 million budget to, yet one more time,
    "test the waters" for B5. We did what we could with that, and that
    was that. As we did with Rangers, which also suffered from not having
    a lot of money because of concerns about "is there really a B5
    audience?" Which is, of course, a foolish question from a studio that
    has never really understood what it has in B5.

    Of late, there have been more discussions from WB about doing more
    DVDs, again at a low cost, or a cable thing, again with minimal
    investment.

    So for the last few months, I've been giving this whole subject a lot
    of quiet thought. And I've come to a conclusion.

    B5 as a five year story stands beautifully on its own. If anything
    else is to be continued from that story, it should be something that
    adds to the legacy of B5, rather than subtracts from it.

    As well intentioned as Rangers and TLT were, as enticing as it was to
    return to those familiar waters, in the end I think they did more to
    subtract from the legacy than add to it. I don't regret having made
    them, because I needed to go through that to get to the point where I
    am now psychologically, but from where I sit now, I wouldn't make them
    again.

    So I've let everyone up here know that I'm not interested in doing any
    more low-budget DVDs. I'm not interested in doing any low-budget
    cable things or small computer games. The only thing I would be
    interested in doing regarding Babylon 5 from this point on is a full-
    featured, big-budget feature film.

    It's that or nothing.

    And if it's nothing, I'm totally cool with that because the original
    story stands on its own just fine. I'm not lobbying for it, I'm not
    asking fans to write in about it (nor should you) because such
    campaigns never really have much impact...that's simply the position
    I've taken up here. Lord knows I don't lack for other things to do
    these days. I'm busier on more prestige projects with terrific people
    and great film-makers than at any other time in my career.

    At the end of the day, for me, it's not just a matter of getting more
    B5. It's a matter of getting more *good* B5 that respects what came
    before it and doesn't have to compromise visually or in terms of
    action. The original show deserves better than that, the surviving
    cast members deserve better than that, and the fans who have supported
    it over the years definitely deserve better than that. A lot better.

    So I've drawn that line in the sand, and I'm happy living on whichever
    side of that line the universe puts me. Just thought you should know,
    'cause it's your show too.

    jms


    The complete post is here: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated/browse_thread/thread/2f006c3b8bf9f53c/3047b5daf18b8524#3047b5daf18b8524
  8. NJOfan215 Jedi Master

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    With JMS's rising star power, i wouldn't be suprised if we do get a movie at some point.

    I really liked lost tales, and i don't think it subtracted from b5's legacy. I do understand what JMS is saying about wanting to do B5 right or not at all. I'm ok with that.
  9. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    I hope this blooms into a real film- though I REALLY wanted to see what that damn Garibaldi story was gonna be, and find out why the Vorlons and Vorlon homeworld were featured so heavily in TLT.
  10. Rebel_Spook Jedi Master

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    Yeah, the major issue I have with the last three B5 projects is that we are left with so much dangling and no real sign of resolution. I have said it before, and this just adds more to my feeling that JMS needs to commission either Peter David or Jeanne Cavelos to finish out the stories of Crusade and TLTs. Peter David did the best job getting the feel of Babylon 5, but Jeanne Cavelos comes in a close second.
  11. mandragora Jedi Master

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    ^^Well, that would depend on finding a publisher who is prepared to pay the licence fee to WB and publish said novels. So far, DelRey has made an attempt reprinting three of the canon novels, without much success. I don't see any new novels coming under these conditions, unless he decides to self-publish them.
  12. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    I realize I'm pretty far behind on these, but here's some more B5 reviews,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/05/28/review-babylon-5-105/#more-339]The Parliament Of Dreams[/link]

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/06/01/review-babylon-5-106/#more-352]Mind War[/link]

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/06/15/review-babylon-5-107/#more-420]The War Prayer[/link]

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/06/22/review-babylon-5-108/#more-463]And The Sky Full Of Stars[/link]

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/06/29/review-babylon-5-109/#more-498]Deathwalker[/link]

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/07/20/review-babylon-5-110/#more-553]Believers[/link]

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/07/26/review-babylon-5-111/#more-618]Survivors[/link]

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/08/03/review-babylon-5-112/#more-702]By Any Means Necessary[/link]

    That's all that have been done to date, hope you enjoy.

    Cheers,
    Bill
  13. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    New one is done,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/08/16/review-babylon-5-113/]Signs And Portents[/link]
  14. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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  15. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    They'll be a coming, I'm way ahead. I like to build up a bit of a gap between the reviews I'm posting and what I'm currently typing up at home. I just finished my overall season one review, and after that I'll be reviewing some other fantasy/sci-fi/horror movies and comics before delving into season two.
  16. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    New one is up,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/08/24/review-babylon-5-114/]TKO[/link]
  17. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    Another new one is up,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/08/27/review-babylon-5-115/]Grail[/link]
  18. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    A new review,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/08/31/review-babylon-5-116/]Eyes[/link]
  19. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    Yet another review,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/09/03/review-babylon-5-117/]Legacies[/link]
  20. Sniper_Wolf Jedi Master

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    So I finished Season Four along with Thirdspace tonight. Granted I'm going to do the big Trek rewatch after I finish B5 since it has been a while since I've watched those shows, but of purely space based shows I have to say B5 season four is argubably the best I've seen. My favorite part is despite the Shadow War ending soon the after effects are felt all season. Plus I can say JMS pretty much destroyed the reset button.

    Thirdspace wasn't bad, but it did feel like a two parter edited together. Anytime Tron has a nuke though is instant win.
  21. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Yeah, Season 4 has just some of the best stuff on TV ever. "Everytime I say no."

    If you're gonna rewatch Trek, you might want to check out my Trek thread in Amp where I've been logging my comments on each episode over the past few years, starting with TOS and, presently, on TNG Season 2. I've also reposted those comments in the appropriate Trek threads here as well.
  22. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    Nuevo uno,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/09/06/review-babylon-5-118/]A Voice in The Wilderness, Part 1[/link]
  23. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    New one,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/09/09/review-babylon-5-119/]A Voice In The Wilderness, Part 2[/link]
  24. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    Yet another one,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/09/13/review-babylon-5-120/]Babylon Squared[/link]
  25. Bill-Thompson Jedi Youngling

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    Nearing the end of S1,

    [link=http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/2008/09/16/review-babylon-5-121/]The Quality Of Mercy[/link]