Discussion in 'Community' started by The2ndQuest, Jan 3, 2006.
I would have loved to have seen that episode.
So would I.
And maybe, just maybe...
Joe at Comic-Con Report
WB came to him as they do periodically wanting to do something with B5. They asked if he wanted to do a feature film but JMS declined mainly because he can?t yet picture structuring a B5 movie ??as long as Andreas and Rick insist on staying dead.? Maybe in a year or two he?ll be able to but right now he can?t do something big. What JMS suggested was a bunch of short films?little mini-movies, an anthology show set in the Babylon 5 universe. They said, ?Okay.? There?s a network already interested in carrying them but they?re also planned for direct to DVD. This will be ?Babylon 5 ? The Lost Tales", a lot of small stories that never made it into the series that he?s rediscovered notes for. And JMS wants no interference, complete creative support ? in writing. They said, ?Okay.? And JMS wants to direct them. They said, ?Okay.? The first will be three individual stories about three of the main characters (to be determined). The plan is to shoot in September, post-production Oct.-Dec. and they?ll probably come out the second quarter of 2007.
This is the best news! Sweet, I can't wait to see what he does with these pieces! I wonder if since he's he'll be writing them that the scripts might get added to the script volumes that they are doing?!?
It will be rough for all involved with these since Rick and Andreas have passed. I know that since I really enjoyed both of their characters that I will feel their absence.
I was celebrating when I read that on jmsnews.com.
I wonder if they could get Claudia Christian to be involved in these projects. I know that she's doing some sci-fi spoof show over in the UK, but I'd love to see her reprising her role as Susan Ivanova!
Showing what Susan was up to during or after Season 5 would be a good possibility, I would think.
Dug this little note in B5 Scripts Volume 5:
"In all of my scripts, I always spelled pak'ma'ra in all lower case letters. Our script coordinator kept changing it to Pak'ma'ra. Finally, I had to tell her to stop changing it. She wanted to know why. I said, "Because that's how they spell it.". It's great being able to win arguments by citing non-existent rules of punctuation created by equally non-existent species."
I think the directing-thing is especially significant. Warner Bros. originally encouraged JMS to direct, of course. But now that he's moving into features to a much greater degree, he's working in a part of the industry where the director, not the producers, rules. The nearness of the passing of Rick, Andreas, and Tim may not be the only reason JMS wants to postpone a B5 feature film. Since none of them are available anyway, but since WB is suddenly interested, why not use part of the necessary downtime to establish a track record as a director of TV movies and episodes -- exactly the kind of thing that got Nimoy, Shatner, Frakes, et al. the chance to helm Trek films.
If The Changeling and the other projects go well, JMS could go to Warner Bros. in a couple of years and say, "Yes, I'm ready to do a B5 feature, but only if *I* direct," and actually have the kind of total control he's always wanted over the project.
Just thinkin' out loud, here...
I can really see that happening Leto.
A cool little tidbit deleted from Severed Dreams' script (as they felt you couldn't really top Delenn's line with anything afterwards):
"Why Not? Only one human captain has survived battle with a Minbari fleet. he is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives...be somewhere else.
Captain...picking up coded message from Delenn ona sub-channel...it says, "We invited some friends, just to be sure." What's she-- (glances at console) ...oh, my god...
EXT NEARBY SPACE
As a huge honking jump point opens, and as in the pilot, the Vorlon fleet emerges with mothership. PULL BACK to reveal as many of the entire assembled chessboard now...ships as far as the eye can see.
INT. OBSERVATION DOME
Sheridan whirls around as the door opens, and Kosh stands in the entrance. Nods.
Snap, snap, snap!
Got some news for you all. While I was at Dragon*Con I got to talk to Peter Jurasik for a bit and let me just say that guy is frakking awesome, he's a trip. As is Stephen Furst. Anyways, he told me that these dvds won't just contain minor characters, but also contain some of the big stars, and in the second set Londo will have an entire episode devoted to him, as will Vir. There was something else but I can't exactly recall what it was at this moment.
Very nice indeed.
On another note, some sadder news:
Another B5 cast member has passed away.
Subject: Re: In Memeory Still Bright: Johnny Sekka
Date: 9/24/2006 12:25:37 AM
> Found on B5TV and confirmed in Variety: Johnny Sekka, Dr. Kyle in The Gathering,
> passed away on Sept. 14 due to lung cancer. He was 72 years old.
> To absent friends...
I'd heard word about this last weekend, from a B5 cast member to Doug
then to me, but wanted to wait for confirmation before putting it on
the net. Then, unfortunately, I got hit with the Martian Death Flu and
have been totally out of action all week...so I wasn't able to post
about this sooner.
It's a great loss, and he was a fine man. His health was always
problematic; even back during "The Gathering" there was concern about
his health and lungs. He was noticeably fragile, and would often run
out of steam in the middle of a scene, especially if there was any
action involved. This was ultimately the reason we couldn't in all
good conscience bring him back for the series, though we kept that to
ourselves in hopes that things would eventually improve and he might be
fit enough to one day return to B5 or work for other shows. But it
didn't happen, and B5 was the last thing he worked on that I know
about. Which is so unfortunate, because he was a vastly talented man
whose compassion was evident and sincere in his eyes, even when his
voice was sometimes so low that you could barely hear it on the track.
It's a genuine loss all around.
Would never have thought Kyle would have outlived Franklin. Still, it's sad to hear of yet another B5 loss (at the rate they're dropping, all we'll have left for the theatrical movie will be the cast of Crusade "featuring Corwin!").
B5: TLT update
JMS: I'm kind of up against it right now on an assortment of deadlines, so
this'll be quick, but I did want to address some of the questions that
have been asked.
Yes, we're shooting this HD, so this is going to be quite a learning
curve for me as a director, since I've never shot HD before. There's
also a HUGE amount of green-screen involved, so again, lots of learning
to be done.
For those who are getting the B5 scripts books -- and eventually the
B5:TLT scripts will be released -- you'll notice a substantial
difference between them and these scripts in that I decided to kind of
direct them on the page more than usual: calling out specific angles
and camera directions, locations and setups more than in any prior B5
script. It probably resembles an animation script more than a standard
TV script, because it incorporates my directorial notes, shot for shot,
as we go.
The first three-segment DVD is called "Voices in the Dark." We've
narrowed down the cast, and hope to have their deals closed this week.
There are already ten crew members working on this thing up in
Vancouver, pulling together stages, offices and other prep work. The
first day of shooting will likely be either November 13th or 14th (due
to a Canadian holiday). The last twiddlings to the script should be
done by this coming Monday. Storyboarding starts the end of this week.
It's balls-to-the-wall right now, but it should be fun in the end.
More new B5 series-info from Joe...and looks like he's putting that "anti-SFX" notice into the indicia again.
The wound will never, ever close...
Subject: Re: Further B5:TLT update from jms
Date: 10/14/2006 12:52:33 AM
Just got back tonight from Vancouver, and we've now nailed down/hired
nearly all of our key department heads and the Director of Photography
who I'll be working with closely during production. We spent today in
the first informal production meeting going over how we're going to
shoot this, reviewing the storyboards, determining what's going to be
green screen and what's going to be practical set...this should be a
pretty cool looking project, with some sights we haven't really seen
before as well as some more familiar sights.
What I can say about the three episodes is that we go to Mars, Minbar
and of course B5, we introduce a new kind of Minbari cruiser, and
there's a rather startling sequence on Earth. I've decided to shoot
each segment a little differently from each other, so they each have
their own visual style that complements that particular story. On
Monday the B5 team up north will be checking out the stages, and about
a week or so from now the actual B5 offices will open up and folks will
start moving in.
It's starting to feel a lot like fun.
We'll also be working with WB to put together a special reel from the
shoot that we can bring to debut at San Diego Comic Con next year.
Meanwhile, not only has the Universal feature deal noted in another
thread been finalized, so I'm writing that now, but the Paramount
feature deal has *also* been closed, so now there are two big-budget
feature screenplay assignments that I have to write, the first due by
late November/early December, the second one sometime to be delivered
shortly after the first of the year. A third assignment is kind of
nibbling around the edges which could be very cool, even though I
couldn't start writing it until I finish the other two, which means
it'd have to be spring 2007 to turn in the script if the assignment
Finally, now that Ron has said it's okay to bring in other directors on
Changeling, there's been a small flood of a-list directors coming
around to try and pick up the assignment. Part of the attraction is
not just the script, but the acting talent involved...as noted in the
LA Times piece, Reece Witherspoon (and two other oscar-winning leading
female actors) are extremely interested in the lead role. I imagine
we'll start having meetings in the next few weeks to narrow down the
list of directors.
It's crazy-busy, but good.
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Hmm...well, the B5 localed story is hard to guess at. The Minbar one, involving a new cruiser, would either most likely have to be in the post-Objects at Rest era that Rangers and Crusade was set in (or, if we're very lucky, the Londo/David/Drahk era). The Mars one I want to guess being either a Garibaldi/Sinclair story set prior to B5 or CEO Garibaldi and him tracking Bester down.
I finished B5 back in June and forgot to check back into this thread.
Can't say anything that hasn't been already. Awesome show. Wish it had run a sixth season and we'd gotten to see the Telepath War and the war with the Drakh.
Crusade started to touch on some of that, at least the aftermath of that. The Teep War itself is still mostly untold (seemingly ever held in reserve for a theatrical film one day), but a lot of the Drahk storyline (at least as far as the Centauri angle is concerned) is covered in the Legions of Fire trilogy of novels.
Further B5:TLT update from jms
Well, tomorrow I head back to LA for meetings on other projects for two
days, then it's back to Vancouver again on Sunday to continue prep. So
far everything's laying out very cleanly. We have an EFX house on
board now, which was the last big step to be undertaken. It wasn't
until the last day or so that we could really get into the CGI issues,
which are huge on these stories.
And in regard to that...the initial goal was to try and do three big
stories in one DVD. So I wrote three scripts, featuring Sheridan,
Lochley, Galen and Garibaldi. (I wanted to focus on the human
characters initially so we'd have more time for prosthetics R&D for the
next one.) The stories, as noted previously, were huge...all over the
map, from Minbar, to Earth, Mars, the future, the distant past, as well
as B5 itself obviously. We're also going to be trying some new
production technologies, again trying to stay ahead of the tech curve,
the way B5 has always stayed ahead on these things.
And over the last few days, as we began to bring on crew and lay out
the production, looking at just how complicated these mini-movies were
going to be, the idea of making three of these monsters began to become
a bit much for us to pull off on out first time out the gate,
especially since I'm still kind of new as a director. So we decided to
postpone one of the three to the next DVD, and lengthen the other two
to make up the difference. GIven that the Garibaldi story was the most
complicated visually and technically, also the most difficult from a
CGi perspective, that's the one that got pushed until, potentially,
And if the sales are anywhere near what WB expects, and I think they
will be, there's no question that there will be more of these down the
road. So we're gong to focus in on those two stories and knock them
out of the park. Same length, same running time, and now even bigger
than at first anticipated since the budget on number three will now be
applied to the other two.
Part of what we're doing is to re-think the look of B5 to some degree.
The show was created using 1993 technology, video toasters and amigas,
and was to some extent limited by the paradigms and production methods
we used in that. But it's now 13 years later, and while I will keep
the feel of the show the same, and the silhouettes and designs, there's
no reason to limit the look of the feel to what we could do six years
ago (from when we stopped). So we're going to invest a lot of time,
effort and money into really re-imagining some of the visuals at the
present level -- looking at shows like Battlestar and the like -- and
bringing those tools into B5 while still maintaining the feel of the
I also managed to work in a nice nod to Andreas and Richard in the two
So with that...the team is now in place, the last personnel have been
hired, and as soon as I get back to Vancouver, I get to take off the
producer's hat and put on the director's hat.
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Haven't seen this one soaked up yet by JMSNews, and there seems to have been a "hiccup" in the system over there, but here's a message from Joe that should've shown up, but didn't:
Date: Thurs, Nov 16 2006 3:07 am
This will be brief, because it's late and I have an early call tomorrow -- a longer update will be coming soon via the B5scripts.com mailing list and elsewhere soon -- but I just wanted to let folks know that filming is going very well. We're three days in, and so far we're ahead of schedule, usually about an hour or two. We actually moved a couple of shots up from tomorrow's call sheet to today. It's just going really well.
The B5 we see here is similar to but somewhat more sophisticated or rethought in places. For instance, in B5 halls we used to have wooden strips painted green or blue or red to signal various sectors. Here we ran these really lovely light panels that can change colors and at the same time add a light source and warm up the halls. We also went back to the original B5 blueprints and found some elements that we wanted to do in the show but couldn't, and we've incorporated them into the new sets. We're also re-engineering the look of B5, the starfuries, various alien ships and the like.
Tonight there was a dinner with Doug, me, Tracy and Bruce, with Peter Woodward scheduled to fly in tomorrow so everybody's here for a couple of pivotal scenes that will cross the two segments. (One aside...Bruce was openly lamenting the small sub-section of british fans -- most of whom we all agreed couldn't be niftier -- who are determined to try and drive a wedge between him and me and the rest of the crew. No sooner was his involvement announced than this same "bunch of whackos" started the same rumors again, including the one where he supposedly burned his crew jacket after the end of B5. Determined to put that to rest, he pulled out all crew coats we made up for him that were personalized by the wardrobe department and -- minus the one that was auctioned for charity at a well publicized convention -- brought them ALL up here to dispel that myth once and for all. So tomorrow we're going to get a picture of him and me, with either all the coats, or at minimum the one the nutcases keep saying he burned, just to put THAT baldfaced lie to bed. The photo will be posted on the nets somewhere soon.)
Otherwise, all is good, and the scenes are cutting together well. Three days down, seven to go.