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"Forbidden Love" Trailer Discussion - Reactions

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith (Non-Spoilers)' started by MasterYodaSkywalker, Nov 15, 2001.

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  1. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I would have been very annoyed if I were Lucas in 1999, hearing people complain about things being too light and knowing what was to come in 2002. "You like dark? Here, have this."
     
  2. Harlowe Thrombey

    Harlowe Thrombey Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I didn't mean that his lines were delivered poorly, I just meant that he was supposed to sound a bit awkward. (GL didn't want him to be as smooth as my boy Lando!)

    Does anyone think that the shot of Anakin on the swoop bike may end up being one of the most beautiful shots in the SW saga (up there with the setting suns?) Its very haunting with Anakin's voiceover about being the most powerful jedi ever-I wonder how it will play in the movie.
     
  3. Assassin

    Assassin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm sure that I am not the first to notice this but you should definitly check out the binary sunset during the scene where Anakin is riding the swoop.

    If you look closely at the clone ships you can almost makeout a Star Destroyer. It's almost like the Star Destroyer is a futurer, larger version. I think Lucas enjoys hiding the shape of OT ships into these new crafts. Or maybe I should say old crafts!
     
  4. Joey7F

    Joey7F Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Do you all remember that thing everyone thought was a star destroyer?

    I think that is Obiwans jedi fighter that we have seen in the bts.

    --Joey
     
  5. MountainMan

    MountainMan Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Wow! That's pretty much my reaction to this trailer. While the Breathing and Mystery trailers were mostly eye-candy, this one has some real meat to it! If the trailer is any indication, I think Lucas has done an excellent job with the love story. That scene in front of the waterfalls is excellent, with Anakin teasing Padme and then Padme giving him a wondering look. And I love the scene in the Lars' garage (and getting a look at some ANH stomping grounds was great!)

    The acting looks like it will be top-notch all the way through. Will we Star Wars fans be able to handle a Star Wars film with actual good acting? I loved the scene when Padme says, "Don't look at me that way," and Ani says, "Why not?" "It makes me feel uncomfortable!" The fire in Padme really reminds me of Leia.

    As for Christenson acting like "an older Jake Lloyd" (or, less cynically, a teenage Anakin) this is exactly what he's supposed to act like. I think the most common misconception of the prequel trilogy is that it's about young Darth Vader. It's not. It's about young Anakin Skywalker, the innocent boy who becomes Darth Vader. He's not supposed to be Darth Vader yet, he's supposed to be young, idealistic Anakin Skywalker.

    The action looks tremendous. If the trailer is any indication, Episode II will be the most action packed Star Wars film yet. My jaw is on the floor.

    May is a long way off...
     
  6. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    The2ndQuest,
    I did look a bunch of times cuz I thought my eyes were deceiving me, but they really DO look like battle droids. Now trust me, I dearly hope that this *isn't* the case.
    BTW, the only thing that I have to back up them being clones is that the ships/transports/whatevers in the background are definitely *not* Trade Federation ships.
     
  7. Darth Garrett

    Darth Garrett Jedi Youngling

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    In regard to Dooku's curved saber. I don't think it's curved. If you watch the sabers when they're being moved quickly they create a blur, as most lights do. Look at Obi's saber in the bar (Mystery trailer). It creates a blur.
     
  8. TheCaptain

    TheCaptain Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yes, to MountainMan you listen, save you it can.

    Totally agree, Hayden is supposed to be an older Jake. He's still growing up, fumbling with his words. I mean can you really imagine Vader flirting with a girl in that flat monotone voice. He'd be about as seductive as a greasy sleaze bag in an open neck purple silk shirt with thick gold chains clanging against an overtly hairy chest.

    I think Hayden delivered his lines very well, I did not note anything wooden about them.
     
  9. Master_Holly

    Master_Holly Jedi Youngling

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    I loved the trailor!! I thought it was 100% true to the 'feel' of Star Wars - beginning to end!! (thank goodness, considering the mess of The Phantom Menace...) Am I the only one who felt that Anakan's anger was a little forced? The "Its all obi-wan's fault" line was less than believable, I think.
    Other than that, INCREDIBLE!!!!!
    I don't think i can wait 6 months; I'll go mad!! :)
     
  10. Scumandvillany

    Scumandvillany Jedi Youngling

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    Today I'm nine years old again. That's how old I was when I first saw The Empire Strikes Back. The best movie in the trilogy, by the way. EP2 could very likely be the most emotionally engaging of all the SW movies so far. Tell me you didn't get chills when Anakin and Padme kissed and Leia's theme swelled in the bkgd, or watching Ani on the swoop. The opening shot of Anakin looking over the balcony will be one of the most haunting of the saga. The chemistry between Anakin and Padme is absolutely electric, and the lead actors seem very comfortable this time around. There was never a doubt in my mind about Lucas turning up the action a notch or two or maybe even three; but more impressively, I think this will be the prequel that gives us characters we care about as much as we do Han, Luke, Leia and company.

    Clones, attack at will. I'm ready!
     
  11. JediDa-cam18

    JediDa-cam18 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Omg did anyone just catch Access Hollywood, I just caught the end of it and they said they were going to show the teaser, but what they showed was like the last minute of it, they cut out all the romance, cheap *@&*@&!

    Doesnt matter I got it saved, anyways my thoughts on it is nothing but praise and more praise. I thought the romance was working fine and Hayden looks great. I have no doubts now that he can make the transition into the dark lord of sith. Around 1:51 of the trailer he gives of this glare that I could swear Vader was looking at me. Natalie looks stunning, especially in the shot right before Anakins glare. Ewan was spectacular in the last trailer and was again spectactular in this one.

    Jango and Dooku looked great, I wanted to see more of Dooku but, that will probably come with the trailer in April.

    Anyways all in all great trailer, going to be a long wait till April

     
  12. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Try this everyone:

    Watch the VERY first shot of the trailer. Anakin is standing very erect, his back to you, gazing out into the sky, Darth Vader's breathing is in the background.
    One thought comes to mind: Darth Vader staring out into space on the bridge of the Exector, with his breathing in the background.


    I really do get chills.
     
  13. Mr. P

    Mr. P FanFic Archive Editor, Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wow, sithman! That's really cool. I ddin't notice that when I first watched the trailer... but it's true, that is very reminiscent of that scene. Nice catch! ;)

    --Mr. P
     
  14. Dark_Lady_Valeris

    Dark_Lady_Valeris Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Whoa, I didn't notice that, either! This movie has more layers than an onion! (And I'm not subliminally implying it's a stinker!)

    Six months is too long to wait...


    Valeris
     
  15. Obi-Wan69

    Obi-Wan69 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    [image=http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/sw/swfan24/anivaderhabit.jpg]

    Awesome.
     
  16. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's part of what makes Star Wars what it is. It's very subtle at times and filled with hidden meanings and parallels.
     
  17. spacemonkey

    spacemonkey Jedi Youngling star 1

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    wow! what a haunting image. even the pillars line up somewhat with the windows. it reminds me of the double cd set for the beatles where they took the same pic like 8 years after.
     
  18. Dark-Vador

    Dark-Vador Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The trailer was rather good. It seems different to most Star Wars trailers (duh to me, this is a prequel).

    I liked the errie feelings it presents, Princess Leia's theme throughout, followed by Duel of the Fates. The trailer is discomforting in a way that makes it interesting. All characters look awesome.

    I really liked Forbidden Love.
     
  19. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Sithman, if you look, you can see "commanders" a bit more by themself from the troop crowd and one looks around a bit and you can see the body is thicker than a battledroid's. I think they're wearing Fett-like jet packs which might be mistaken for the battledroid's "backpack" though...plus, it's called "Attack fo the Clones" and I imagine they'd want to show one shot of the Clones::)
     
  20. Crimson_Jedi

    Crimson_Jedi Jedi Master star 1

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    The "Forbidden Love" trailer is an excellent piece of work. I hope that the final, edited version of AOTC that we will see in May will have as great pacing, excitement, and intensity as this two minute trailer.

    Lucas has raised my consumer-confidence quotient in his ability to pull off a romance. Portman does an outstanding job as a sexually and romantically coy partner in the lovers' tit-for-tat. Her delivery in the trailer is on target. Padme teases, praises, reasons, consoles, and loves Anakin. The trailer demonstrates a believable love story on Portman's merits alone. Moreover, the beautiful scenes on Naboo might be some of the most scenic settings for a romance that we've seen in film for a long time. Does such a wide, expansive, and bountiful waterfall exist on planet Earth? George Lucas reminds us that the most romantic natural settings may be in a galaxy far, far away.

    Hayden delivers as well. I like his performance more than I thought I would. He's a confused teenager with amazing powers. He's earnest, cocky, moody, and vulnerable all at once. Anakin is caught between pleasing his Master Kenobi and his lover Padme. And both Kenobi and Padme are more centered and self-confident than confused Anakin. I think this is an important point.

    Anakin is in an emotional tailspin. The guy has got problems. I sympathize with him. Yeah, Hayden drawls his lines a bit. And his "Sorry, my lady" after Padme's "It makes me uncomfortable" is accompanied by a leer and a pause that seems straight out of a soft porn film. But I don't see much Jake Lloyd in Anakin. Jake Lloyd had no nuance in his performance. Hayden is nuanced. Hayden knows how to joke, retort, throw a tantrum, get hugely vindictive (I look forward to seeing him save his Master and slice his way through the opposition), and convey a physical performance that Jake Lloyd could not even imagine pulling off in his wildest dreams.

    Anakin comes across as a tormented soul in the trailer. Good! The romance in the trailer is some of the most emotionally complex material in Star Wars. I hope this comes across in the whole movie.

    And Obi Wan has more emotion and vitality than either he or Qui-Gon conveyed in TPM. This is also a welcome development. Obi Wan's scolding of Anakin and lectures about the Jedi order and politicians are well-delivered. Liam Neeson sleepily performed his lines in TPM. And Obi Wan, other than in his duel scene, seemed asleep for TPM. Ewan seems to have woken up. He chides Anakin. He yells at him in the "power coupling" sequence. And he's pumping vital and working over-time in his action sequences. We will be proud of Obi Wan in AOTC.

    So, I'm still cautiously optimistic. But if Ben Burtt and George Lucas cut a film with stale character scenes that end in abandonment rather than completion, then GL will lose. But GL is working with greater raw material in AOTC than TPM. WHy? Because he unshackled his actors. Because Natalie Portman is allowed to act in the way that she was not allowed to act in TPM. Portman has talent to burn. GL squandered it in TPM. He's letting her use it on Anakin and us in AOTC. Ewan also seems unshackled. Because the writing is better.

    And the visuals are absolutely stunning.
     
  21. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That about says it all. Great review :).

    By the way, that scenic view exists in a far, far away galaxy called Italy :).
     
  22. bennehana

    bennehana Jedi Youngling

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    No matter how many times I watch the trailer, I still think Anakin delievers his lines funny. I have hope that it'll all either be relooped or that the music will make it all sound better. (I don't really are if he's suppose to be that way, it still sounds funny.)
     
  23. -PBoba-

    -PBoba- Jedi Youngling

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    I love this trailer *sooo* much! The opening dialogue plays awkwardly at first, but take out the score and look at the expressions and situation... man, poor Anakin. :D

    The best thing for me: The close-ups. WONDERFUL creativity shown in the shots of Anakin interacting with Obi-wan and Padme. It seems George has been thinking much more cosely how his characters should be portrayed visually rather than the (often attractive, sometimes symbolic but DISTANT) wide shots we got in TPM. That's what made the scenes really work in the OT, the close-ups. But George *had* to use close-ups back then because his special effects couldn't fill the gap. In TPM, the flexibility of blue screen was his answer to everything. If we're back to seeing and feeling the characters... everything is right in the world. :D
     
  24. Harlowe Thrombey

    Harlowe Thrombey Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think I saw the curve: its in the hilt, not in the blade of Count Dooku's saber. You can only see it for a second. I just the high quality trailer: I didn't think it could get any better but it just did. Wow George, wow.
     
  25. KnightWriter

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    I was just watching the first shot of the homestead in ANH, when Luke has the model of the ship in his hand. It's stunning after watching the last trailer, because you realize that in the same place where Anakin once stood, Luke wonders if there is anything more to life than faraway Tatooine. Little does he know... Also, in the same room where Padme stood, her daugher pleads to the same person that Anakin blames.

    The colored lights in the background on the last trailer (in the homestead) are also in ANH.
     
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