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TFA Force Ghosts in VII

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy (Released Films)' started by RyanForder, Mar 9, 2014.

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Which ones do you want to see?

  1. Obi-Wan Kenobi

    33 vote(s)
    18.3%
  2. Yoda

    48 vote(s)
    26.7%
  3. Anakin Skywalker

    49 vote(s)
    27.2%
  4. Qui-Gon Jinn

    9 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Palpatine

    14 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Other (Please state)

    6 vote(s)
    3.3%
  7. None

    12 vote(s)
    6.7%
  8. Not bothered

    9 vote(s)
    5.0%
  1. DarthSpaced

    DarthSpaced Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Maybe Shmi could come back and give Leia parenting tips.:D The ghosts could easily come back as their younger selves, if you're a ghost do you want to prance around in your 70's or 80's or wouldn't you go back to young and spry? "This is what a true Jedi looks like Luke, not a crusted 'ol man or frog"-could be said by any dead Jedi including Yoda and in 10 seconds young looking force ghosts are explained and we can move forward with the plot.

    Obi, Yoda, and Anakin. Yoda and Obi to guide Luke. Anakin to tell Luke, and us, things that we and most likely the Jedi, didn't know about the prophecy and/or Sith.

    Just for S's and Giggles-Sidious & Plagueis
     
  2. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Force Ghost star 4

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    Mar 10, 2004
    Is the title of this thread saying that a Force Ghost is in Episode VII? Because my brain won't allow me to read it as the plural form "Ghosts" without nearly having a stroke.
     
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  3. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    No there's nothing within the fictional universe that prevents him from returning. However it would be an awful storytelling choice. It badly undermines the arc & redemption of Anakin Skywalker. The Saga is supposed to be one big story with episodes viewed in order. The first 6 play as the rise, fall & redemption of Anakin. We sit through 6 episodes, 12 hours of this harrowing journey where he goes through hell & back & then at the end of Ep 6 he finally comes back to the good side & destroys this evil guy who completely ruined his life. He turns the tables on him & saves his son. Awesome! Then we pop in ep 7 &....what, Palpatine is back?? Wreaking more havoc on the galaxy & Anakin's children that he sacrificed himself to save!??

    Terrible amateurish storytelling choice IMO.
     
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  4. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    Aug 19, 2003
    the sith can't come back.
     
  5. EHT

    EHT New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Fixed it. :D
     
  6. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That's what Ki-Adi-Mundi thought too...
    [​IMG]
     
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  7. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    Aug 19, 2003

    not from death they can't. not with 3 barrels on 'im he can't.
     
  8. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Palpatine may not come back as a ghost (TCW suggest as much at least) but he may have other tricks up his sleeve. Never say never...
     
  9. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    Aug 13, 2003
    He could come back via the Tenebrous Way
     
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  10. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    how's that?
     
  11. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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  12. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    Aug 19, 2003
  13. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Manager / Also Known as Bazinga'd star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Not to start a discussion on this subject, but the final arc involving Yoda in TCW seems to make that clear, although it raises the issue on how Anakin learned the ability?
     
  14. Trebor Sabreon

    Trebor Sabreon LACWAC-y Mod of SWTV star 4 Staff Member Manager

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    Personally, I've no issue whatsoever with Hayden appearing. I suppose that I wasn't thrilled with the change from Shaw to Christensen for the ending of ROTJ, but it never drove me bonkers, either, and now that it's been established, there's no reason to me that Anakin's spirit should not appear in the ST as it did then. I think Luke seeking counsel from his father is a rather nice idea, and regardless of Anakin appearing younger to the eye, he's still the spirit of the man who lived until the events aboard the DSII, with decades of experience to draw from.

    And to anyone who prefers an "older" Anakin, don't forget that Anakin/Vader did not live a full life. Vader died in his forties, so even were an older actor chosen to appear as Anakin at the end, Luke in his early sixties is still going to be talking to a "younger" face.

    If it truly is an issue for JJ, though, I do like the idea some here have proposed, of just using Hayden's voice.

    To me, Obi-Wan is more of an issue, but not an insurmountable one. If Ewan were to appear as Ben's spirit, I'd prefer they attempt to age him up, but I'd be willing to accept him in his current appearance, should make-up prove unconvincing.

    I would be interested In having a look at that head shot you refer to, Mr. Chiznuk. I don't recall seeing it before, but if you could provide a link, it may jog my memory.

    And yeah, Yoda probably makes quite a lot of sense, too. Both story-wise and because the actor's appearance is of no issue.

    Sidious, I'm conflicted about. I think it makes sense to try to include the Emperor's influence in the ST, but George Lucas has been pretty clear that the Sith don't know the secret. If he is to appear, though, I would like it should his spirit adopt a different look about him. Maybe something as simple as a red glow?

    [​IMG]

    If Luke dies, I absolutely want to see him return as a spirit. But then, I don't want to see Luke die in the first place. I'd much, much rather he step away from galactic affairs to a life of secluded meditation and contemplation of the will of the Force.
     
  15. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The head shot of Obi-Wan is in one of the web documentaries (sorry, I can't remember which one) on the ROTS DVD. It's so convincing that Ewan himself thought they had superimposed Alec's face onto his but Lucas says clearly that it's him. :)
     
  16. Trebor Sabreon

    Trebor Sabreon LACWAC-y Mod of SWTV star 4 Staff Member Manager

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    Awesome. I'll pop it in and check it out.

    Thanks, mate!
     
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  17. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Lawgiver & Casual Flyer star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Darth Raiden

    Darth Raiden Jedi Knight star 3

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    It was on youtube. I'm not sure if it still there, but I didn''t even need a documentary to see how much Ewan look liked Alec. Heck even in TPM I thought there was a resemblance. AOTC not so much, but that mullet was pretty cool though.
     
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  19. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought Ewan resembled Alec more than DVD ANH Jabba resembled ROTJ Jabba
     
  20. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    or RotS Emperor resembled RotJ Emperor. Or PT Yoda resembled OT Yoda
     
  21. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    Yes, he was a pretty genius cast. But I still hope he is absent from 7. He has played his part in the events and now deserves to rest.

    We can have Ewan in the Obi-spinoff I really hope they are making.
     
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  22. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Mar 9, 2003
    It's my understanding that once Anakin turned good, he was able to return as a Force Ghost. Plus it "helped" that he was also the "Chosen One."

    From the films and TV, it's revealed that Qui-Gon teaches Yoda who teaches Obi-wan. No one teaches Anakin that we see, so how does he learn it or does it just happen because he's special? What's the official explanation?
     
  23. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Manager / Also Known as Bazinga'd star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    One possible explanation, is that Palpatine taught it to him. "While its too late to save Padme, let me teach anyway how to exist after death." The problem with that is doctrinally, Sith believe there is no afterlife.
     
  24. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    How about the Force Ghost of Hamlet's father?
     
  25. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Master star 4

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    That was a long time after the events of the saga, in a galaxy far, far wary from it. By that point, the knowledge had spread to other galaxies, such as the Milky Way.