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'Force Speed' whats the deal?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by J_Gonn_Jinn, Mar 21, 2006.

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  1. J_Gonn_Jinn

    J_Gonn_Jinn Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Here is something that bugs me every time I watch TPM and I always forget to mention it

    At the Start when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are faced by the Droidekas, they run away, and u can clearly see them do some kind of 'force speed' not just a normal run

    Yet at the end of the movie, Obi Wan is running towards the 'laser doors' at a regular pace

    Why didnt he use the force to run faster like he clearly did earlier in the film

    The same could be said for many instances in the PT, e.g Anakin running to Mace arresting Palpatine

    Im not into the EU per se, but I have played the KOTOR games, and u can do force run or force speed on there, although I know this cant be used with regards to the films

    Anyway if anyone knows the answer to this would be much obliged!
     
  2. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    [hl=black]Strilo[/hl] edit: Not needed.
     
  3. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    By the time Obi-Wan was running for those doors in the Duel, he had been fighting a Sith Lord for a long time, done multiple leaps and flips and been knocked like 100 feet down into the shaft, barely hanging on for his life. After making the huge force leap up to the platform, he was tired enough to not be able to do the Force run.
     
  4. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The deal is that it's taxing using the Force. Obi-wan needed all his stamina to fight and he couldn't risk blowing it on Force speed. Especially since he could make a mistake and mistime his run. That would not be a wise thing to do.
     
  5. DarthButt

    DarthButt Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, after playing the Jedi Knight series and whatnot, I always think "well why not just do this?". The only thing that I can think of is when dealing with a Sith Lord or a dark force user, they would probably anticipate those things and compensate for them anyway. But in hindsight it's all Monday Morning Quarterbacking. No matter what was done, we could say "well he should have done that".
     
  6. J_Gonn_Jinn

    J_Gonn_Jinn Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah I see your point about being tired, just something ive always wondered

    I guess also it would get a bit tiresome for the viewer if every time a jedi moved they did it at super speed
     
  7. anakin_luver

    anakin_luver Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yah, like Ventress. She does that a lot.
     
  8. WEEBACCA

    WEEBACCA Jedi Padawan star 4

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    One thing is that he probably was exhausted. Another thing is that he could probably not perform force speed there because he could end up running into the Force fields or into the chasm falling down or maybe straight into Maul's lightsaber.
    I don't know why noone else uses force speed, but it could be because it's too exhausting and lacks control and timing.
     
  9. burrie

    burrie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    [link=http://alx.vanderleun.com/~ruben/WIOHUFS.avi]In hindsight, it's a good thing he didn't[/link] (right-click, save as)
     
  10. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    LMAO that's awesome.
     
  11. J_Gonn_Jinn

    J_Gonn_Jinn Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ooooooohhh so thats why!!

    answers my question nicely!
     
  12. DarthButt

    DarthButt Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    [face_laugh] That was hilarious!

    Well, now you know. And knowing is half the battle.


    Yo Joe!
     
  13. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    ....Well. That certainly makes a strong case for no running in the halls [face_laugh]
     
  14. Master-Fett

    Master-Fett Jedi Master star 6

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    I cant count how many times ive done that in jedi academy... and thats the sfx as well! [face_laugh]
     
  15. JMaster Luke

    JMaster Luke Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    thank you for the footage. that was sweet. haha who knows maybe that IS why he didn't do it. After all we didn't see how long it took qui gon and obi wan to slow down after they did the force run thing.
     
  16. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Let me throw out a wild theory RE: Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon/Maul.

    There didn't seem to be a necessary pattern to when the doorswould open or close. Perhaps the Jedi couldn't sense when they would close.

    Running = Sublight Drives
    Force Speed = Hyperspace

    Force Speed through may end up you bouncing too close to an energy shield. ;)

    Carnage
     
  17. -Jeb-

    -Jeb- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've seen this video over and over like 30 times. Genius. [face_laugh]
     
  18. ThePriminister05

    ThePriminister05 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Oh my god oh my god that was soooooooo awesome.(still laughing)
     
  19. P_Nizzle1231

    P_Nizzle1231 Jedi Youngling

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    maybe he was tired.. or didnt want to run into something like a lightsaber ..... it was a long battle between the 3 and alos he was fighting to get into the city.. so maybe he didnt want to waste force energy on runing when he needed for power in the duel... who know but lucas
     
  20. i_dont_know

    i_dont_know Jedi Padawan star 4

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    rofl
     
  21. WEEBACCA

    WEEBACCA Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That was hilarious! [face_laugh]
     
  22. Volturedroid

    Volturedroid Jedi Youngling

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    Also in ESB Luke jump from the freezing chamber with similar speed that Obi and Jinn did run. It seems to take a lot of energy to peform this and that's why we don't see it very often.
     
  23. darthvaderv

    darthvaderv Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I agree. I have always thought that was a frustrating scene. It was unnecessary to include the force run.
     
  24. 3_Foot_Jedi

    3_Foot_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I have often wondered about this, but came to the conclusion that it is not really a sprint but more of a dodge. A quick bust of the force like a force jump which will just get out out of the way (like out of the way of Destroyer Droids guns) but can't be used to keep moving at that speed.
     
  25. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    It kind of reminds me of how Road Runner is always a foot or two ahead of Coyote. And when he really needs to kick it into high gear, he goes with Force Speed which propels him at a high rate and leaves a puff of smoke. But it expels a great bit of energy to use that power and so more bird seed is needed. For the Jedi, it's time to refresh and gain back your energy.
     
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