Lit Forces of Destiny: New Animated Shorts Series

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Taalcon, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    It's not like the Freemakers Adventures are exactly canon, though. They're made of LEGOs. They remove their hair. They lampshade that they have no fingers. The stormtroopers buy the Emperor mugs for his birthday.
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  2. MrDarth0 Jedi Knight

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    True, but the "general" setting is canon. Also, Lucasfilm wouldn't allow Hera to be in the Freemaker Adventures as a supporting character if she's going to die in Rebels.

    I'm actually surprised that Hera seems genuinely happy in both FoD and LEGO FA. Granted, these are cartoons aimed at very young children, but I would assume that if Kanan dies (or Hera believes he died) in Rebels, she wouldn't be as jovial. But people do get over deaths of their loved ones and she may still be hurting inside. Or Kanan doesn't die and he's with the Rebellion the whole time and we just haven't seen him yet :p
  3. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    It's reasonably plausible, given the way she issues orders on Echo Base. Even Rieekan appears to answer to her, on occasion. It might be the first time the term has been used though.
  4. Chris0013 Jedi Master

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    Will cooking them in their armor seal in the juiciness?? [face_devil]
  5. MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, they made everyone else a general, so why not?
  6. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    Just how many generals does that army need anyway? Too many cooks, if you ask me.
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  7. MrDarth0 Jedi Knight

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    I'm not saying its not plausible, however I always preferred Leia to be a civilian leader of the Rebellion, similar to Mon Mothma, rather than just another high ranking military officer, albeit with royal blood.

    After all, the Rebel Alliance wants to restore democracy and abolish Imperial tyranny, therefore it only makes sense that Rebel civilian leaders actually outrank military officers, like in our own real world democratic republics. The military answers to the civilian government, not the other way around. And we saw in Rogue One, that the Alliance actually has a standing civilian government that outranks the Alliance military. Its more realistic and also creates nice contrast with the Empire, which is pretty much run by the military.

    This whole Leia being a general during ROTJ created by this FoD episode is in my opinion another reason why this show should be completely decanonised. I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason why they called Leia a general in this episode is to tie it up more closely to TFA.
  8. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    She's consistently shown going "In harm's way" in the comics and novels - as well as being shown to be a very good fighter. "Leia the soldier" rather than "Leia the politician" is what we tend to see - might as well give her some rank to go with it. She acts like Luke's commanding officer. And threatens to "bust him all the way back to moisture farming" once.
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  9. jedisor Jedi Knight

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  10. sidv88 Jedi Master

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    Ugh, I didn't need to be reminded of how Marvel made new canon Leia such a jerk. [face_sigh] Not your fault though, it's new canon's.
  11. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    Even in Legends, OT-era Leia could be pretty harsh when it came to Luke disobeying orders.
  12. Ancient Whills Jedi Grand Master

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  13. The Positive Fan Jedi Master

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    Whenever this criticism comes up, I'm prompted to wonder what people think Leia's reaction to Han and Luke disobeying orders should be. She's their commanding officer in a military unit, and was established as early as ANH as having little tolerance for fools. For the same princess who demanded that Han "get this walking carpet out of my way" in the Death Star, I'd say it's entirely in line with her character to dress them down as she feels necessary.
  14. Shadowrain10 Jedi Youngling

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    So, I guess this takes place sometime before TFA, it also has to take place before "Before the Awakening", because Rey doesn't have her goggles?
  15. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    I reviewed the morals of these episodes so far, and I'm definitely sensing a pattern...

    Sands of Jakku & BB-Bandits = friendship is magic
    Ewok Escape = friendship is magic. And dresses.
    The Padawan Path = know your priorities
    Beasts of Echo Base = sometimes you think your friends are slacking but really they’ve been eaten
    The Imposter Inside = Arthurian knights eat with their hands
    The Stranger = friendship is magic
    Bounty of Trouble = friendship is magic
    Newest Recruit = friendship is magic
    Tracker Trouble = Unkar is an ***
    Teach You, I Will = teach you to be you, he will
    The Starfighter Stunt = the magic was inside you all along
    Accidental Allies = friendship is magic
    An Imperial Feast = sometimes you have to suck it up to your smarmy friends to get things done
    The Happabore Hazard = friendship is magic
    Crash Course = friendship is magic but it requires a sacrifice

    Sarcasm aside, I do think it's cool that they're focusing on that as a theme. But intriguingly, that theme is used primarily with Rey, Sabine, Ketsu, and Jyn -- the LEAST social of the bunch. That's probably on purpose.
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  16. Vthuil Force Ghost

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    This is a life lesson I wish I'd learned a lot earlier.
  17. Yunzabit Jedi Knight

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    Crash Course was perhaps the most pointless one yet. Its the equivalent of watching characters get out of bed and drink their morning cup of coffee. Their was no reason for it to exist. It adds absolutely nothing to canon. Also unrelated: What the hell is wrong with Ketsu Onyo. She purposely crashes a speeder and jumps off it, and then also destroys Sabine's speeder. Is she drunk? Does she need to watch that Star Wars PSA on drunk driving made in the 70's

    Also strange, after Onyo holds up the handlebars of the second speeder she destroyed, Sabine goes for her, but Hera puts her hand on her shoulder and says "Don't do something you'd later regret." Was Sabine going to punch Onyo. I certainly think so. I guess Sabine has a temper. We saw it in Trials of the Darksaber, but she quickly recovers. TBH, it would be better if she punched Onyo. It would make the short more interesting
  18. Ancient Whills Jedi Grand Master

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  19. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Heheh I actually didn't mind that one so much because the moral was relatable for kids (you need patience with your friends sometimes), but the way they went about it was awkward. It's exactly like those kids' books and shows where you've got a group of friends, like Sesame Street or something, and one person sucks at something, making life difficult for the rest of the gang. "Oh so-and-so likes to cook but their food sucks" or "so-and-so likes to play music but it's like nails on a chalkboard" or whatever. But Ketsu and Sabine are like, quasi-adults and delivering warplans. So the implications of "Ketsu can't drive" are... um... a little more of a serious matter... and I would argue for herself more than the vehicles...
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  20. Ancient Whills Jedi Grand Master

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    I won't be reading too much about it. This show is clearly meant to slowly introduce kids to the wider SW universe. Yes, there is simplistic morality but I don't think kids care about that as much as older fans, they probably just want them to be enjoyable. Not everyone is ready to watch a 2 hour movie or even TCW and Rebels. Could they be slightly longer? Maybe.
  21. Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Knight

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    Lesson for kids - It's OK to borrow your friends stuff, treat it carelessly and wreck it. Your friend will be expected to forgive you instantly.:oops:
  22. BookExogorth Jedi Knight

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    It would have been better if she said imperials had shot it or something, but Ketsu here just looks like she's recklessly breaking something of Sabine's. Why borrow something if you don't know how to use it?
    I've never seen a Rebels episode, but I've been following FoD, and most of that show's characters' representations here are less than flattering.
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  23. Ancient Whills Jedi Grand Master

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    I agree that compared to Rebels, Ketsu's portrayal in FOD is less reluctant.
  24. BookExogorth Jedi Knight

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    Also, is Maz Goldilocks?
  25. Outsourced Jedi Knight

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    Im pretty sure the implication is that Sabine is just happy that her friend is safe, even if her bike eas wrecked in the progress.
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