Lit FOTJ Apocalypse: So who really is the Chosen One?

Anakin brought balance to the Force by having two children.

He became the Father

Leia and Luke became the Daughter and Son.

Except they were all good people, thus bringing balance to the galaxy.

 

Padme: What am I, chopped liver?

 

Alas, she becomes Aboleth.

 

Apocalypse shouldn't affect our interpretation of the Chosen One prophesy.

A better question to ask would be, "who does Luke think the Chosen One is?" Having not read Apocalypse since 2012 or whenever it was released, I seem to recall that question was answered, in the sense that Luke thought Abeloth's emergence reflected new ages or something to that effect, and this new status quo that developed out of her latest emergence redefined balance as being between the Jedi and the Sith, rather than the view that the Sith created imbalance.

Essentially the writers, or Troy Denning at the very least, attempted to redefine it to better accommodate storytelling involving the Sith by explaining this disparity of why there somehow emerged more Sith after Anakin fulfilled the prophecy than before.

 

Even Lucas himself seems to have abandoned the Light = Balance thing, which is a good thing too. It looks like NuCanon is also abandoning it, considering the existence of the Bendu.

 

Light has never equaled balance. It's merely that the Jedi and Sith aren't 1 for 1 stand ins for light and dark. The dark side still exists without the Sith around, it's simply kept in balance. The Jedi, and the light, are self-limiting, because they don't impose themselves on others.

 

I think it's interesting that both Legends and canon imply that Anakin may not have fulfilled the prophecy, with Apocalypse implying it in Legends, and Obi-Wan thinking Luke is the Chosen One, and later Luke thinking Ben is the Chosen One, in canon.

 

Still want to know about the other times Abeloth escaped. How did the Gree war change history? Mnggal Mnggal another time and the Rakata the most recent time before Jacen?

 

That's not uncommon. Obi-Wan thinks that Luke is the Chosen One in SW Rebels S3E20 Twin Suns.

The incredulity of the Jedi Council in Episode I suggests that Anakin wasn't the first person that a Jedi believed to be the Chosen One.

 

When did George Lucas abandon the Light=Balance idea?

 

When he wrote the Mortis episodes, presumably and had them be distinct.

 

I wouldn't say that the Mortis trilogy said anything different than could be found in The Making of Episode I from 1999.

 

Well, for those who believe Light=Balance, I think it does.

 

Well, that's the problem, they're reading something into the text that was never there.

 

I was not a fan of this.

Honestly I'd say the whole Anakin's didn't bring balance to the force was just Luke's cynical tired assessment at the end of his FOTJ adventure. Not an objective statement just Luke's cynical POV.

 

I was more offended ONLY a Skywalker can bring balance since apparently Cade was needed to kill Krayt

Wait, is Cade possibly Anakin reincarnated?

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.

 

How did Caedus's feeble grasping attempt to rule the Galaxy end up helping Krayt a century later? Aside from the weak "lightning rod" argument, Caedus achieved very little in his one year of Sithdom.

 

It's funny, I always read the Mortis episodes as a confirmation that the defeat of the dark side = balance, and a repudiation of the idea that the Jedi and Sith must coexist like a seesaw.

 

How do we understand the light winning? The total destruction of the dark side? I'm not sure that's possible, though in Legends I recall there being a fair but of diversity in Jedi understanding of the dark side in that sense.

 

The light side in power is the Republic. The dark side still exists but is kept in check.

The dark side in power is the Empire. If Palpatine won at Endor, there's no light side in the sense that it's a complete tipping point with no one left to remember what things were like before the Empire, and generations of people living under the Empire are going to be damaged people.

 

I agree with you most of the above points, except for the one in bold. Defeating Jaina wouldn't have secured victory for Caedus. He'd still have an extremely angry Luke Skywalker to deal with. Against whom he had no chance.