FoxNews-Telling lies?

You apparently have not been paying attention to the media lately if you don?t think there are as many vocal supporters for the other networks as there are detractors to the Fox News Network.

Indeed, in most cases these people are one in the same.

It?s an ad populum anyways, so it really doesn?t matter in the general direction of the debate.

 

Memogate. Enjoy. Hey, Faux 'news' helped give this nice story some steam.

 

What?s ?Faux? News? I?ve never heard of it, some website perhaps?

You provide a link to a partisan website that is attacking other partisan attacks on fellow liberals and you want us to take it as proof of something?

This ?memogate? fiasco was so blatantly political that everyone saw through it.
The Swift Boat Veterans were dealing real political damage to John Kerry, and the main networks were trying their best to either portray them as partisan liars or simply ignore them.
Then, out of nowhere, supposed memos proving years old accusations about Bush?s own military history turn up just before the election. These memos are rushed through standard authentication procedures and make Rather?s nightly news.

It was a blatant attempt to destroy Bush?s credibility as well as remove the credibility of the Swift Boat Veterans.

Further evidence of the partisanship in Rather?s opinions were that, even after CBS backed away from the memos and the media classified them as forgeries, Rather proclaimed that he believed everything the memos said were, ?exactly correct?.

The entire media machine descended upon the story, first when it was an unknown, and then later when it was a major, scandalous level, of screw up.

Fox News, CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, and every major piece of print media came down on the story like vultures on a dead corpse.

What is your point about FNC and this situation then?

Providing a link does not constitute and argument.




I don?t think Cross Fire to be truly ?fair? in any sense, however I do acknowledge that it is an attempt at a fair debate program.
Also, the majority of Fox News daily programs are about analytical observations of the news. Only Shepard Smith?s shows really provide a classic, pure reporting, newscast.

 

You are right, they're not saying we kill all infants, but they are implying that we're acting like nazis and such.

The Nazis had a systematic way of killing innocents, as do the Dutch in this story. The article is about history repeating itself: all evil, murderous countries start out small, and in this case, it's euthanizing innocent children.

However, I do think it was wrong for the reporter to give his opinion about it. He's supposed to be reporting news. Usually, FoxNews gives incredibly objectve reporting. I'm surprised the editors let this report get through. At least they don't make up half their facts, New York Times style.

 

However, I do think it was wrong for the reporter to give his opinion about it. He's supposed to be reporting news. Usually, FoxNews gives incredibly objectve reporting. I'm surprised the editors let this report get through. At least they don't make up half their facts, New York Times style.

It was an opinion column, not a news article. It was clearly labeled as such.

Kimball Kinnison

 

Woah! Can't believe I missed that.

 

The article is about history repeating itself: all evil, murderous countries start out small, and in this case, it's euthanizing innocent children.


Not to get off subject, why would you "mercy-kill" someone you didn't feel sorry for?

 

I don't understand your question.

 

Euthanization is "mercy-killing". You do it to eliminate someone's pain and suffering. You said the Dutch euthanize innocent children. Wouldn't someone's innocence make you feel more mercy for them?

 

I don't think anyone should choose whether someone else has the right to life or not. People can choose to commit suicide if they wish, but outside forces such as you and I should not be killing people in the name of "mercy."

 

I've only skimmed the first few pages of this thread so forgive me if this has already been mentioned.

Would someone like Hellen Keller have fallen in the category of children that would be euthanized?

If not by todays standards, maybe by the standards set in the future?

 

People can choose to commit suicide if they wish,

Newborn babies can't.


but outside forces such as you and I should not be killing people in the name of "mercy."

Even if they are going to die terrible deaths in less than a week?

 

Newborn babies can't.

Exactly. No one should speak for them until they can speak for themselves. Euthanizing them if they do not have the chance to speak for themselves is, in fact, murder.

Even if they are going to die terrible deaths in less than a week?

Good point.

 

Euthanizing them if they do not have the chance to speak for themselves is, in fact, murder.

But isn't keeping them alive and prolonging their pain and suffering, in fact, torture?

You have a choice between torture and murder. Although your intentions may be good if you try to prolong the life of the child, you will just prolong the suffering and achieve the same end result.

 

But isn't keeping them alive and prolonging their pain and suffering, in fact, torture?

No.

 

Unless you're a psychic or a clairvoyant I don't think you can make such a claim without it falling into the realm of opinion. You stated it as a fact. wink If by manipulating his entire film you mean editin - I don't think you can really gripe that much; after all every director manipulates their work to more effectively get their vision across. If he hadn't made a film about Our Lord And Savior, GWB, he probably wouldn't be as reviled.

Don't make me bring up the 59 Deceits again, FID, because it is fact that Moore manipulated his film beyond pragmatic editing to coerce people into his line of ideologue. That is beyond mere documentary and into the realm of propaganda.


Ciou-See the Sig

 

I think every news agency is bias to either left or right but i believe that Fox News i more than most.

 

Well, belief is certainly proof of something....

 

Not to change the subject, but this is just in from The Drudge Report...

'AIR AMERICA' RATINGS TURBULENCE IN NY CITY: Surprising many observers who expected it to shine during election season, all-liberal upstart WLIB (1190 AM) -- base station for Al Franken and Janeane Garofalo -- actually headed south, shedding 15% of its summer audience to finish fall at 24th place in just-released ARBITRONS...

If the libs are soooooooooooo upset about the "bias" of the talk radio scene and the "control" the Conservatives have over the radio airwaves, why the hell don't they listen to Air America?

Perhaps it is just the market providing what the public wants...

Maybe there is no "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy"...

 

If the libs are soooooooooooo upset about the "bias" of the talk radio scene and the "control" the Conservatives have over the radio airwaves, why the hell don't they listen to Air America?

Simple, we're too busy getting things done. Like staying in the library and you know...that whole sex thing. Who the hell wants to listen to talk radio while they're getting their groove on? Okay...so maybe there are some out there who would.

 

Who the hell wants to listen to talk radio while they're getting their groove on?

I do! At just that moment I scream, "What a Rush!"

 

You're either a Roadwarriors (Legion of Doom if you're WWF) fan or a Limbaugh fan. If it's the former, kill me. If it's the latter hand me a bucket so I can puke.

 

LOL...Both, it was a pun to anyone who would get it. Good job!

 

Dunno...if I'm having sex with my woman...a portly conservative republican isn't something I'd want to think about. Give me Ann Coulter...at least you could see her as a dominatrix type gal. Well...she's a heshe...but still.

 

Here is an example of why I think Fox News is more fair and balanced than the rest of the liberal media. I mean seriously, at least Fox will bring liberals on to tell their side of things. CBS wont even pretend to do that much. at the "eye".