Lit From Endor to Exegol - The State of the Galaxy Discussion Thread (Tagged Victory's Price Spoilers)

I find it disappointing that the TFA comic adaptation doesn't actually expand on anything. That's normally something I expect from an adaptation, a "capital gain" if you like.

BTW, I only noticed yesterday that the TFA Visual Dictionary contains a rather dark (I mean nocturnal) picture of Republic City. Just a hedge and an urn, basically. But it makes me wonder: does this come from a deleted scene?

 

All I see is a black x

 

What about now?

 

No I see it.

 

Marc Laming, the artist for the series, confirmed we won't see the Hosnian Prime scene until the fourth issue, FYI.

--Adm. Nick

 

Hmm, what happened to Ross who started the series?

 

Considering, that we - and also the artists - don't know how the ships of the NRDF in the TFA-era look (we will hopefully find out with Episode VIII) I don't expect more detailed pictures within the comic-adaption. Imagine the confusion and the need for retcons, if the artist draws ships, that will be totally different from those in Episode VIII.

 

Has the TFA comic adaptation added anything much? Like deleted scenes? Particularly Leia and Korr Sella? When these adaptations were published alongside the movie, sometimes its interesting to see what earlier scripts had (and sometimes they're better than the final product). With this comic adaptation so late, I'm really not expecting much in terms of extras. Doesn't help that the last comic adaptation was by Wheatley and... kind of hard to match that quality.

It would be nice to see NRDF ships in the comics, but I doubt they would waste time on it. If later ship designs go in a different direction, they could always write around THAT by saying the Hosnian Prime ships were from a different fleet or something like that. It wouldn't be the first time fleets completely changed between Episodes (like AotC ending with tons of Acclamators, but none showed up in RotS, replaced by Venators).

It would be nice even if they just reused the Alliance fleet from RotJ, but I'm expecting just tiny blurs. And unless someone gets really enthusiastic and creative, doubt it'll be Dark Empire again.

 

Well, based on the analysis of hi-res shots of TFA during that scene, three ships for sure are part of the NRDF over Hosnian Prime. There is a clear MC80 Home One-type, a MC80 Liberty-type, and a Nebulon-B frigate. We also see these classes in concept art, so I think it stands to reason that we can assume that the NRDF still fielded old school Alliance ships, or at least upgraded variants.

FTeik

I am finally home from work, I've linked the image I made a few months back.



There seems to be a good mix of familiar and either unfamiliar/new designs over Hosnian Prime. When you consider the demilitarization of the galaxy that the New Republic oversaw, the NRDF being compose of updated Alliance warships and/or modern variants of the same vessels makes a lot of sense. Hell, in the real world, the US Navy uses carriers for 50+ years. Less time has passed between ROTJ and TFA, so these could very well be updated MC80's.

--Adm. Nick

 

You really think an underpaid, overstressed artist would bother to take his TFA-DVD (if he even owns one) and watch those few scenes in high-res? I find your lack of pessimism disturbing.

 

I think a couple at the top are MC80 Home Ones, given this image:


Illumination at the bottom seems to make the rightmost ship follow the HO-type. And the lowest is a Nebulon-lookalike.

 

Story Group!

 

I wish someone would just show us the models. They exist at LFL somewhere, as they were digitally created for the movie. Granted, they've got better things to do, but I hope we'll see them one day!

--Adm. Nick

 

I've always been a bit of an Empire fan when it comes to ships, but I do hope a Viscount star defender shows up in the new films.

 

As much as I loved the Alliance fleet, I don't want to see it again.

Time for a New Republic fleet! Show us why the FO couldn't wage war on it for all those years.

 

Bonobos!!!

 

I'm all for seeing the New Republic Defense Fleet, but why should it look so drastically different compared to the Alliance Fleet. TFA takes place in 34 ABY, so exactly three decades after we see the Rebel Fleet at the Battle of Endor. If in the real world we see Nimitz-class carriers, F-15 Eagles, M1 Abrams, and B-52 Stratofortresses all serving 30+ years (or longer, in the case of the carriers and bombers), why wouldn't that be the case in the GFFA?

The old EU showed us a lot of new ships, but that was also because the Galactic Civil War was a much longer conflict. Not only that, but the galaxy was in a state of near constant war up through the end of the Vong War.

Contrast this to new canon, where we have the Empire disappear and the New Republic hold sway as a peaceful government for over two decades. Without any major threat, why would the NR be building fancy new warships and fighters?

I suspect we'll see the NRDF using upgraded versions of Alliance hardware, or at least modern continuations of the same ship (ala the T-70 X-wing).

--Adm. Nick

 

The New Republic grew out of the Rebel Alliance. Why would they suddenly have all new ships?

New groups could join the Rebellion in the New Republic and we can see new ships but at the expense of ships that were part of the Rebellion?
Not likely.

And 30 years of peace? Why would there be new ships?

 

There is reducing your military as a general de-militarisation drive and there is maintaining the fleet that remains, which includes tech upgrades and indeed ship replacements.

War is a driver of technological innovation, but it's not the only one.

Indeed, I'd like to think that where the FO likes to see the NR as weak for being peaceful, it's overlooked that the NR never actually ceased its R&D activity....