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Lit From Endor to Jakku - The State of the Galaxy Discussion Thread (TLJ Novelization Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralNick22 , Sep 6, 2015.

  1. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    I doubt he felt Luke specifically, but it's clear the Force helped him discern which option was the right one somehow. It probably just amounted to having a *feeling.*
     
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  2. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I haven't read Last Shot yet, but one spoiler relevant to this thread:

    The capital is apparently back on Chandrila. Makes me wonder if Nakadia was a temporary home after the assassination attempt on Mon Mothma. Once the Empire falls, the government returns to Chandrila. It seems that Chandrila might be capital for a bit, as they have some pretty impressive infrastructure they've built for the government.

    I'm starting to guess that capital rotations don't happen much. Hell, Chandrila and Hosnian Prime together account for +/- 10 years of the 30+ between ROTJ and TFA already.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  3. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I feel like moving the capital is an in-universe Olympics sort of thing.

    Probably also a huge drain on resources.
     
  4. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    Could be a 5 year rotation.
     
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  5. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Master star 4

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    Or Chandrila won voting for capital after Nakadia expired.

    Please use spoiler tags until next Tuesday, 4/23.
     
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  6. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Or they made a mistake and forgot the capital was moved to Nakadia.
     
  7. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Possible. Either way, Nakadia is a boring setting for a capital or a story, so at least it's on a more familiar world. Plus I love how a world we barely saw in the old EU is getting a lot of love in the new canon.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  8. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Maybe they were driven off Nakadia by First Order freedom fighters.
     
  9. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Some NR-related, thread appropriate tidbits from Last Shot:
    • As previously mentioned, the New Republic is back on Chandrila.
    • The world has built up some impressive infrastructure for the new government, including a Senate complex and a headquarters for the NRDF. It seems that capital rotations aren't as common... or that at this point in NR history they weren't a given.
    • Leia is a senator, though still no confirmation (formally) that she represents Alderaan.
    • The New Republic Senate has a "security council". Leia is discussing fleet deployments with it.
    • Disarmament is well underway, though the level of it seems to be less publically known.
    • The NRDF is shown using "star cruisers" and "medium corvettes".
    • The book implies that disarmament is more literal (ie, removing guns from ships) and less actually scrapping hulls. This may be why the MC85 Raddus is comparatively lightly armed in TLJ.
    • Mention of multiple "fleets"... though the firepower of said fleets is questionable.
    The big takeaway for me is that disarmament may be less about hull counts and more about firepower on said hulls. I'm sure it ultimately amounts to both, but it is interesting to see an early NR that has large fleets of lightly armed vessels.

    I was pleased that the NR isn't shown to be a mess. Also- one benefit of reduced military spending, according to Lando, is that New Republic designed tech is apparently very hi-tech and well built.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  10. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Hmmm, it seems Mothma's pretense at giving up power was indeed a sham.....
     
  11. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Jay... I thought you gave this shtick up long ago? [face_laugh]

    --Adm. Nick
     
  12. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    She's totally going to sit under her own vine and fig tree and have a moment alone in the shade when the time is right.

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  13. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I'm not wrong.
     
  14. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    I really like this move. Makes it easier to have the Resistance not only have tons of available hulls, but also likely decent crews on them that where not in the fleet that got wrecked due to them being lightly armed. Kinda similar to the merchant fleet in the current SW arc.
     
  15. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Master star 4

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    Always figured that after Nakadia's year-long term expired, the Senate voted to return to Chandrila again. It also meant that the planet won a second-year contract.

    I find the year-by-year terms for planet rotations ridiculous, even for a galaxy far, far away. Three-four year terms for planetary capitals make more sense.

    Then again, whose to say that Hosnian Prime was the New Republic capital during the entirety of the six years between Bloodline and TFA?
     
  16. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    The "fleet" could very well be a Nebulon C and 1/2 dozen corvettes.

    who still used it.
    I do not think he will ever completely give up his schtick....and thank you for using the word...I thought I was the only one who used it IRL.
     
  17. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Cincinnatus was called to serve more than once
     
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  18. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Cincinnatus also enjoyed putting his thumbs on the scale. :)

    It's just interesting how the capital ends up, once again, in Mon Mothma's home turf. Funny how that happens.
     
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  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    I thought the "rotating capital" thing was once every 4 or 5 years, not once every year - with Last Shot taking place during the "first capital term" - which is Chandrila.

    So it's not "capital has returned to Chandrila" it's "Capital has not had time to be more than one planet since the formation of the New Republic - Ben Solo was only two or so in Last Shot.
     
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  20. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yeah the idea of rotating the capital every year is absurd. It would take almost that long to just get the basic processes sorted and settled.
     
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  21. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Was the Senate on Chandrila?

    I took it that the Senate and executive could separate for some reason. Mon Mothma was based on Chandrila for most of Aftermath III even when the Senate had moved to Nakadia.


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  22. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Knight star 3

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    So if I've got this right . . .

    After the Battle of Endor, Chandrilla is the New Republic capital. Then about a year later Nakadia is the capital (Battle of Jakku is also about a year later).. Then *two* years after the Battle of Jakku, the capital is back on Chandrilla. And if that isn't confusing enough. Hosnian Prime is the capital both 6 years before TFA, and during the events of TFA.

    I called it when this idea of a rotating capital was first introduced: This going to be one of those "continuity error magnets". Like Han Solo constantly running into bounty hunters on Ord Mantell, Lando constantly losing the Falcon to Han, the Death Star Plans being stolen over a dozen times, or Boba Fett falling in and out of the Sarlacc repeatedly, this is something that will never be consistent author to author.
     
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  23. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Master star 4

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    In Aftermath: Empire's End, it's mentioned that, at the time anyway, they vote on the capital every year. So after Nakadia's year ended, the obvious conjecture is that the Senate voted to move the capital back to Chandrila.
     
  24. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I like the IU-concept behind rotating the capital among member worlds. If executed properly (OOU), we could get to see a lot of cool worlds get the spotlight. The first strike was Bloodline, which had Hosnian Prime the capital several years before TFA. Actually... I can forgive that one, as it allowed us to see the world developed a bit. Strike two is in Last Shot, where they move back to Chandrila without any explanation.

    Don't get me wrong- all of this is easy to explain/fix/retcon.

    I'd love to see the New Republic based on Rim worlds too. Lothal would be cool, plus have neat symbolism for the government.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  25. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If they move that often I wonder if most of the infrastructure is actually on some ships and they just park above the planet in question
     
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