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Lit From Endor to Jakku - The State of the Galaxy Discussion Thread (TLJ Novelization Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralNick22 , Sep 6, 2015.

  1. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Master star 4

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    I don’t know why they chose Nakadia in the first place. I got the impression from Empire’s End that Quarrow was a much smaller city than Hanna City and the arrival of the senators and their entourages created a huge disruption that the city didn’t really have the infrastructure/resources for. Makes sense that after a year, the senators would be itching to get back to civilization.


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  2. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah... the decision for Nakadia truly makes zero sense. Then again, the New Republic at it's founding was borderline OBSESSED with looking different from the Old Republic and Empire, so choosing a small agricultural world fits the bill. Mon Mothma was an idealist (with a pragmatic soul), but I can see a lot of senators clamoring to get off Nakadia almost immediately.

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  3. sidv88

    sidv88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "They choose what they believe to be morally correct, instead of what is strategically sound." Thrawn on the Jedi, but likely reflecting his views on the New Republic too.

    I love this line as it explains why Thrawn doesn't turn to the Republic/Jedi for help on Unknown Regions threat or Vong (depending on the canon). Thrawn knows what horrible threats are out there, and the New Republic is quibbling on a capital. In Legends, there was also a lot of fighting over what should be the capital (with Luke being mentioned in 'Heir to the Empire' as saying no to Coruscant and being overruled).
     
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  4. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    To be fair - a Mid Rim world becoming capital of the galaxy is a big thing.


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  5. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't see how the could move that frequently...I could see every 5 years and the host planet has to build the facilities.
     
  6. AzureOwl

    AzureOwl Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I could see them taking a vote on the matter every year, but deciding to stay put several years on a row.

    Also, it could be something like the Olympics. A colossal waste of money for the host planet/country that has to pay to build the facilities out of their own pockets, but everyone still wants to get it because of the prestige.
     
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  7. Shadowrain10

    Shadowrain10 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Here's hoping that they do fix/retcon it.
     
  8. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, to be fair, those were presented as definitive, singular events when they happened. The rotating New Republic Capital has a continuity escape hatch "Yeah, we moved again in between this or that piece of Star Wars media that had it somewhere else". The only thing we know is that they vote every year to move the capital, not that they always definitively move it every year. Wheels of bureaucracy and all that.
     
  9. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    What is the source for annual votes on the capital? The visual dictionary for TFA?

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  10. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Master star 4

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    Empire's End: "The capital city is Quarrow, and it’s where the Senate will be housed for the next year-cycle, and maybe more if the Senate votes to extend its stay."
     
  11. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Thanks, Daneira! That allows a lot of wiggle room. It doesn't mean that the Senate has to move every year, just that votes on the capital's location are held annually. I wouldn't be surprised if New Republic ends up moving far less than we first thought. Hell, I'd have little issue with Chandrila and Hosnian Prime being capital the bulk of the time between Endor and TFA, with a few other moves mixed in for shorter durations.

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  12. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    This is going to be a fun thread to read through after Ep. IX comes out and they start unloading post ROTJ stories on us.
     
  13. sidv88

    sidv88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They will all be small scale stories though, since officially the NR is at peace for 30 years. I'm beginning to think that what Ezra/Thrawn/Sabine/Ahsoka do somewhere will end up taking up Luke's time for decades. He goes off exploring (possibly with R2 and 3PO), runs into Thrawn's evil scheme (disconnected from the rest of the galaxy) and spends decades fighting it (sort of like how the Outlander ran off and did his own thing with the Eternal Empire in the Old Republic MMO). Basically Thrawn Trilogy 2.0, canon version, that doesn't involve the New Republic.

    Luke makes friends, maybe even romances canon Mara Jade, and finally defeats Thrawn in a Pyrrhic victory that leaves Ezra, Ahsoka, and all his friends dead, any love interests dead, and Luke returns to the NR alone. Luke believes his brutal, tragic experiences have made him stronger and decides it's time to rebuild the Jedi. But, as it often is with people who go through hardships in the real world, these experiences haven't made Luke stronger but in reality more unstable and he's just denying it--leading to his moment of weakness with Ben seen in 8.
     
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  14. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm very hopeful that this fall's new animated series Star Wars: Resistance will provide us with some cool background on the New Republic in the years leading up to TFA. So we might have new information sooner than IX. ;)

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  15. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd really rather not see Thrawn Trilogy: Bootleg edition.
     
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  16. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Jedi Master star 4

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    while I doubt that would be what Resistance is, they do have a chance to take that storyline and make it better. ie no crazy jedi clone, force-be-gone lizards or luukes
     
  17. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Master star 4

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    The Thrawn Trilogy simply wouldn’t work in canon at all with the 30 years of peace after Jakku.


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  18. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Jedi Master star 4

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    Unless the story takes place entirely in the unknown regions. Thrawn's out there somewhere, presumably with a fleet. If he came into contact with the Imperial Remnant/Early First Order, he might attempt to make a power play against Sloane for whatever territory the FO initially conquered. Thrawn would have been more familiar with that space after all. This conflict could be the catalyst for Snoke's eventual takeover. Food for thought.
     
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  19. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Of probable interest to this thread: Jon Favreau apparently revealed at the Solo premiere last night that his new series will take place during this timeframe, seven years after ROTJ. Interesting!
     
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  20. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    It is interesting. Hopefully it means a new enemy, not Imperial remnants or early First Order.
     
  21. BeesInABar

    BeesInABar Jedi Knight star 1

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    Turns out he actually said seven years after Yavin. Which is still after Endor and Jakku, just not as long after.


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  22. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Presumably after Last Shot.

    Or post-CE II in One Canon... pre-JAT.

    ... or just before X-Wing: Rogue Squadron in @Blackmyron’s concept...




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  23. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Master star 4

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    Question: Nash Windrider's fleet remnant wasn't a part of the forces that Rax hand-picked to flee into the Unknown Regions, was it?

    For some reason all this time I was under the impression that it was, but upon re-reading Lost Stars and the Aftermath trilogy it seems like he's doing his own thing. Unless I'm missing something.
     
  24. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Master star 4

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    He's under Grand Moff Rannd's command at the end of Lost Stars.
     
  25. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Master star 4

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    Right, but it seems like that fleet was not part of the "Contingency fleet" that jumped to the Unknown Regions. According to Lost Stars' ending it almost reads like they are amassing for a counter-attack. Also, I know that the Imperialis jumped on it's own and that other remnants followed at a later point. I just didn't know if there was any source that shed more light on the Imperial assets that jumped into the UR.