PoT, I have. He likes the idea, but expresses the concern that newbies might be frightened by the thread's size. Possibly the same concern I had actually. May I offer a simple alternative? I will lock this thread, but since I've currently turned pruning off, it will not be deleted and will be accessable by anyone wishing to read it. Links to it for nostalgia etc would be possible. You'd be allowed a new fresh thread that would have friendly newcomers flocking. Just a suggestion.