main
side
curve
  1. In Memory of LAJ_FETT: Please share your remembrances and condolences HERE

Lit Galactic union, governance, and civilization -The Official Galactic Republic Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralNick22 , Feb 8, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    May 28, 2003
    Topic #2: Pre-Republic Period, Part 2- The Core Founders at the dawn of the Republic

    [​IMG]

    Part 2 of our Pre-Republic period discussions revolves around the Core Worlds themselves, in particular those that would gain the coveted "Core Founder" title when they agreed to found the union known as the Galactic Republic. Before any discussion can be made about the actual Galactic Constitution and the founding, it is worth analyzing the main known Core Worlds that were the, pardon the pun, "core" of the newborn Republic. Thanks to the Essential Atlas, we have a list of the current known Core Founders and what their main strengths were. So, without further ado, let's dive into these august and diverse worlds!

    Category #1 - Key Political players

    Coruscant
    Corellia
    Duro
    Alsakan
    Kuat
    Alderaan

    These are the world that drove the efforts to unite into the Republic. The first three, which we have already dubbed the "Big Three", are the unquestioned powerbrokers in the early Republic. Without the exploratory & commercial alliance between Coruscant, Corellia, and Duro, it is very likely that the Republic wouldn't exist. They are the poles of the early Republic's borders, with Coruscant in the north and the duo of Corellia/Duro in the south. The major hyperlanes linked these worlds and all three were among the most prolific colonizers, seeding their peoples around the Core and beyond. Given the amount we discussed the Big Three in the first part of our Pre-Republic discussion, there isn't need to go much more into detail on them. What is most interesting is the inclusion of three former Coruscanti colonies as major players at the discussion table. Not exactly "young worlds", Alsakan, Kuat, and Alderaan were settled for a few millenia by this point. And, unlike other colony worlds like Corfai, they were considered powers in their own right and therefore "worthy" of the title Core Founder.

    Alsakan, as we all know, will go on to be the primary antagonist of the Coruscanti in the coming millenia. Their aristocratic & independent nature put them at odds with pro-government bureaucrats on Coruscant. As the EGTW points out, the Alsakani viewed the Republic as a limited economic & political union, not a centralized government. However, given the fact that the first conflict with Coruscant wasn't until nearly 7,000 years following the formation of the Republic, it is interesting to contemplate an early Alsakan less obstructionist towards early Republic policies. Even the Tionese War of the 24,000 BBY period didn't see the Alsakani being anti-centralization. The Republic further united and formed it's first centralized Navy and Alsakan was a contributor. The key difference being that once the war was over that the Republic decentralized it's military and went back to the old status quo of each world having greater independence and say in their own affairs. Regardless of the causes, Alsakan was sufficently pro-union that they were part of the movement to form the Republic.

    The Kuati, with their extensive wealth and connections, were a major galactic power long before they emerged as one of the galaxy's primary shipbuilders. I had forgotten this, but according to the Kuat entry in the Essential Atlas, the Kuati colonized Axum, Tepasi, and Humbarine in 26,000 BBY via sleeper ship, a full millenia after Kuat was settled and a millenia prior to the Republic. The Kuati seem to be the most successful and prolific of Coruscant's former colonies. The fact that Kuati colonists settled major military & commercial worlds shows the depth of their influence. The Kuati, with the potential backing of their former colonies, provided incredible political and financial support when backing the formation of the Republic.

    Alderaan is the final major political player among the Core Founders. As the EA states, the Alderaanians became a symbol of human culture at it's best- cities built in harmony with nature, reknowned universities, and close ties with the Republic's non-human founders. Alderaan was known for it's culture, with Alderaanian food, music, wines, theater, and poetry being among the most popular of the Republic. Alderaanians long had a reputation as stellar diplomats and people of mercy, so it isn't a suprise that the world was a Core Founder. One can assume that the Alderaanians were the ones who provided a bit of "softness" to the new union, showing how the various worlds & species could interact with each other in a peaceful way.

    Category #2 - Military powerhouses

    Axum
    Anaxes
    Esseles
    Rendili

    Of course, no union is fully secure without military backing. Even before the Republic evolved into a centralized government with a federal Navy, the young union required a bit of military power to both ensure their collective defense in the case of Rakatan return as well as to secure their new borders with the frontier. These four worlds, founded by Coruscant, Kuat, or in the case of Anaxes, founded by Axum, where the guaranteers of the defense of the early Republic. Sure, worlds like Coruscant & Corellia posessed powerful navies, but these worlds were the foundation of what would eventually evolve and form into the Republic Navy.

    Axum was a Kuati colony that in turn broke away from their motherworld and founded a regional empire. The Azure Imperium was a military powerhouse that would serve as a major supplier of warship to the Republic during the Tionese War. Axum's holding were sufficent enough that they also turned a world in their own solar system, Anaxes, into a naval hub of their own. Axum also bears the sad distinction of being the target of Tionese pressure bombs, which ravaged the world and may of played a part in the reason that it's neighbor Anaxes rose to greater prominence.

    Anaxes, arguably one of the more popular worlds created for the Expanded Universe in the last decade, would go on to hold the august title of "Defender of the Core". Anaxes posessed major shipyards capable of warship construction, but the fact that set them apart was the fact that it would house the first Republic Naval College. The Navy was one of those factors that ended up in the long run being a unifying factor for the Republic. Here, cadets as diverse as human, Duro, Khil, or Zabrak were equals training in service of the Republic. The world also has the distinction of having a democratic government AND being a military power, which is an example of a stereotype breaking world for the Expanded Universe OOU.

    Like their fellow Core Founder of Axum, the world of Esseles maintained a regional empire in the northern Core. The fact that it was an "empire' less revealing than the fact that it was considered a benevolent power more concerned with trade and regional security for it's colonies in the Darpa Sector than flexing it's muscles. It is possible that this regional empire was more of a NATO-like military union combined with the EU, as opposed to a aggressive power concerned with expansion.

    Rendili, the last of the military powerhouses that founded the Republic, were located mid-Core. The Rendili would gain the most in the coming millenia from greater centralization of naval power in the Republic government. The Rendili would produce some of the most common & prolific warships used by the Republic Navy and the Planetary Security Forces and would be the primary shipbuilder for the government until the start of the Clone Wars. We really know little about Rendili in the pre-Republic period, but their role as a Core Founder and their naval power leave little doubt to their influence in the Republic's founding period.

    Category #3 - Hubs of Commerce

    Brentaal
    Tepasi
    Humbarine

    Commerce and trade are no less important to a government than warships and blasters. In fact, the later requires the former. Among the known Core Founders were three worlds noted for their ecomonic power or blessed by their position on major hyperlanes to become financial and commerical heavyweights.
    Brentaal, located on the intersection of the hyperlanes that would one day be known as the Hydian Way and Perlemian Trade Route, was controlled by the Brentaal Houses, a group of powerful families with ties to galactic trade since the early days of the Republic. Blessed with wealth and the key location, the world was one of the wealthier members of the Republic. It's location would make it a frequent target in times of war, but it's reasons for being a prominent Core Founder are beyond doubt.
    Tepasi and Humbarine, the remaining two commercial powers among the Core Founders, we know less about. Both worlds were settled not by Coruscant, but by Kuat. Tepasi was wealthy and it's location in the norther Core place it between numerous major political players, including Coruscant, Alderaan, and Alsakan. Humbarine was a manufacturing meccha that controled a not of worlds known as the Humbarine Rule. An ecumenopolis like Courscant, Humbarine was a powerful player in the mid-Core. It's manufactuering might and location farther from major hyperlanes would come in handy during the Tionese War, when along with Corellia and Rendili the world churned out the first warships for the Republic Navy.

    Category #4 - Diplomats, Healers, and Philosophers

    Chandrila
    Caamas
    Rhinnal
    Shawken

    Balancing out the political, military, and commercial Core Founders were those who were focused on the diplomatic, philosophical, or medical fields. Powerful worlds in their own right, what they lacked in military power was made up with by the infulence they had on the early Republic's vision, morals, and beliefs. Mostly located in the northern Core, these worlds round out the list of known Core Founders at the dawn of the Republic.

    Chandrila, a democratic world that placed high value on civic service and public debate, a powerful world in the Ringali Shell. Affluent and posessing a world that wasn't marred by the scars of overindustrialization, the Chandrilans were as much a political player as they were a diplomatic player in the early Republic. It was futher blessed by the fact that over the course of the 25,000 year history of the Republic, it was never the sight of a major battle. It's people bordered on obsession with their devotion to public debate and discussion of political issues.

    Caamas was a peaceful world that valued peace, art, and diplomacy. Along with the Duros, the Caamasi have the distinction of being the only other non-human species currently known to be a Core Founder. Paragons of ethical thoughts and practices, the Caamasi were valued as diplomats, mediators, and scholars. They exerted influence on the early Republic is subtle ways and the early Jedi Knights traveled to this world to learn how to use their powers for the greater good and in an ethical manner. Few worlds or species embodied the better angels of the Republic's ideals and morals than the Caamsi.

    The cold, lightly populated Core World of Rhinnal was as world devoted to medical advancement and healing. Like the majority of it's neighbors in the Ringali Shell, being located on the future route known as the Perlemian Trade Route greatly benefited the world. A former colony of the Esselian Empire, the world must of attained sufficient clout on it's own to be considered a Core Founder, where other more populous Core Worlds like Corfair, a former colony as well, were not allowed a "seat" at the Galactic Convention.

    The final confirmed Core Founder, Shawken, we know little about. Posessing a monarch at one point in it's history before turning towards a representative government, Shawken in located in the Northern Core. An anciet world, it was the home of the Shawken Spire, one of the galaxy's wonders. While it had a human population, it is possible that the ancient Shawkenese were a different species. It was one of the world's that fell in Alsakan's sphere of infulence, so it could be assumed that the world was a potential colony as well.

    Category #5 - Potential Other Core Founders

    Perlemia
    Corulag
    Ralltiir
    Metellos
    Scipio
    Ixtlar
    Wukkar

    Several of the worlds listed above seem ideal candidates for additional Core Founders. Perlemia, for example, was a key Core World, producer of starships, and major player in the early Republic. Corulag and Ralltiir are notably absent, despite the fact that all of their Ringali Sheel neighbors are founders. Corulag, potentially due to it's extreme closeness to Coruscant as a former colony, may of been treated in a similar manner as Corfai. Corulag has always fascinated me, as it is a world of bureaucrats that love political debate and passing legislation. It is apparently some form of democracy, as it's House of Citizens was the world's government until the Empire installed a governor millennia later. When you consider that three prominent Coruscanti colonies- Corulag, Corfai, and Chandrila- all had some form of representative government, it does make me wonder if the Coruscanti themselves, given their future role as primary mover of the Republic, had some sort of republican, representative government as well. GrandAdmiralJello already pointed out the sad fact that we know next to nothing about the Coruscanti's own planetary government, so this may provide some small clue. Many of the older, urbanized Core Worlds like Metellos, Ixtlar, and Wukkar are all strong candidates as well, unless they were part of Coruscant's sphere of influence. In fact, it would seem rather likely that for Coruscant to be the world with the clout to call the Galactic Convention that they had immense colonial holdings. The three worlds I just mentioned are all in Coruscant's backyard, so this is a strong possibility.

    All of these worlds would go on to form the Republic. Pacifists and militarists, monarchies and democracies, and just about everything other imaginable type inbetween would find common ground and purpose to unite under the banners of the Galactic Republic. They posessed a shared history, either as Rakatan slaves or as colonies of their original founders. All had a desire to expand and explore the galaxy around them. The key, which we will be discussing in my next installement, is what truly impelled them to put aside their own rivalries and differences to form the Republic. Cause when Coruscant called, all of them answered and all of them constributed to the Galactic Constitution and the ideals that would form the core of the Republic.

    So, thoughts, comments, observations?

    --Adm. Nick
     
  2. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

    Registered:
    Sep 14, 2013
    I always felt like making Alderaan a founder of the Republic adds a lot of symbolism to Alderaan's destruction.
     
  3. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

    Registered:
    Nov 28, 2000
    Well, this is probably reaching on my part, but given that ancient Notron and the Galactic Republic itself has a strong Roman overtone, I have to wonder if Coruscant followed a similar policy as the Romans in the imperial period. Namely, the Roman Empire is better seen as a confederation of city-states (which happens to be led by a military ruler) than an empire in the modern colonial states, and that while the Romans installed client kings in buffer states, they generally preferred to install or more often support existing republican institutions in the great city-states of the Mediterranean.

    This sounds really familiar to the pattern of worlds you've outlined, Nick. The worlds most closely associated with Coruscant (and indeed, even in the "modern" period, tie their political fortunes directly with Coruscant) may well have been satellite worlds of Coruscant with ancient republican-style institutions. I say this not just because I'm fond of that period of history, but that the whole Republic -- especially in its older days -- seems based on the wellsprings of Western republican government as well. So we might see Corulag and Corfai and the like as sister republics to Coruscant, while places like Axum and the Azure Imperium are monarchies that are either close allies or buffer states for the republican government on Coruscant.

    As far as Alsakan, I think that the early republic probably stayed more as that trade/defense Union we discussed last time and it was only after it became turning into something resembling a federal-layer government that Alsakan started freaking out.

    Lastly...

    What about the Khil?
     
  4. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

    Registered:
    Oct 13, 2003
    As for why some of those worlds weren't considered core founders... Is it possible that it's because Coruscant at the time was a government that already governed several star systems, with the planet Coruscant already the capital of a mini-republic?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  5. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 25, 2007
    Per that nice sidebar in Suns of Fortune regarding Corfai and the founding of the Republic almost causing a war between them and Coruscant, I wonder how many total worlds these Core Founders represented. Planets like Alsakan, Coruscant, Corellia, or Axum could be representing a number of their colonies or client planets.

    I do hope we get to see Alsakan one of these days. I think it would look a bit more regal or maybe gothic in comparison to Coruscant and no where near as built up.

    On a side note I wonder what the relationship is between Axum and Anaxes in terms of their local governments? Did Anaxes become completely independent of Axum and its Empire at this time or is it still regarded as a colony world with its own local government.

    I think that's probably quite right with planets like Alsakan, Corellia, and I am sure a few others acting as a check against a stronger Coruscant and more federalized Republic for the better part of its long history.

    Thinking of the Roman Republic, I wonder considering the prevalence and the large amount of power the nobility of the Core Worlds seems to have had, if Coruscant had some form of mixed democratic/aristocratic government in the Pre-Republic days. I can see the noble families of the Core coming about in other ways, but maybe they are all originally tied to noble houses on Coruscant. Maybe like American Loyalists after the Revolutionary War moving to places like Canada, the Royalists of the Coruscant just moved to the rest of the Galaxy.
     
  6. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    May 28, 2003
    Yeah, this is more and more seeming like the best idea for pre-Republic Coruscanti government. Besides, it make even more sense that Coruscant pushed for a galactic version of what it was already doing with it's own colonies. If we follow the Rome model, it is possible that the original Senate was the Coruscanti Senate, with the model being adopted for the Republic when it was formed. We will touch on this more later, but I think that the early Republic was perhaps in a lot of ways a more democratic body that it's later incarnation, by virtue of the fact it was smaller and it was possible to have each world share it's direct voice in the Senate. We all know how messy Senate representation eventually got, but I like to image in these "golden days" that is actually worked quite well.

    The Alsakani are very interesting to me in that they very pro-Republic... just that their view of what the Republic should do it far different from Coruscant's. One of my favorite quotes from the Essential Atlas is from Senator Fird of Alsakan:

    "How, then, should the galaxy that lies before us be apportioned out? Should Coruscant alone say where the colony ships are to be most profitably sent? Or should it stand aside while a thousand thousand species, planets, and organizations launch a thousand thousand ships to a thousand thousand new worlds. My mind rebels at both ideas, friends - as, I suspect, does yours. And so here we stand, seeking a middle path that may not exisit."


    The great question of the era.

    I was really tempted to include the Khil, but they are located in the Colonies and I haven't seen any direct source that they helped found the Republic. They are among the earliest members, but unless I am missing a reference to them being with the Republic since the beginning I assumed that they were one of the first non-Core alien species to join the government.

    The Khil are incredibly interesting as a species. They possess a large colonial democracy and consider themselves galactic citizens first and foremost, with their own planetary allegiance being secondary. No surprise that the Khil became incredibly active and influential Republic members.

    I imagine that the early Republic consisted of hundreds of settled worlds, but not much more than that. As the EA and EGTW pointed out, the early Republic was more concerned it was too spread out and small, which of course ceased to be a problem in just a few millennia, when it was too huge for direct planetary representation in the Senate.

    I wouldn't lump the Corellians and Alsakani into one group. During the worst of the Conflicts, the galaxy split into the Coruscanti-controlled Republic, the Alsakan territories, and the Corellian Hegemony. The Corellians kinda strike me as the "middle ground" in these arguments. Plus they can relate to other Coruscant and Alsakan on different levels.

    And knowing Corellians, they loved the image of being the world to ride to the rescue of the Republic and sort things out between the Coruscanti and Alsakani. ;)

    --Adm. Nick
     
  7. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 25, 2007
    That's the perfect quote demonstrating the separation of ideology between Coruscant and Alsakan. I think they both want the Republic to exist its just the matter of how its run.
     
    AusStig likes this.
  8. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    May 28, 2003
    Yeah, it captures the same very same dilemma we see during the Second Galactic Civil War. The only difference is that it was Coruscant vs. Corellia, as Alsakan has apparently fallen into obscurity by this period.

    Ultimately, I think it is about balance. Having a galactic government that regulates trade, provides common defense, ensures rights & liberties, and mediates disputes among members is important. These are the better "better angels" of the Republic's purpose. At the same time, you need to ensure that planets and species are not overly controlled, less you take away their basic freedoms. Balance is key, but how to define that balance varies.

    --Adm. Nick
     
    darthscott3457 likes this.
  9. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Aug 25, 2013
    Question.

    At this point, when we say "Corellia," does that also include the Drall and Selonians? Or does that come later? I think those two were native species, so I assume they're already part of the picture, but in what capacity? Do they have civilizations, but still at a pre-spaceflight stage? Are they under human occupation/colonization? Are they already full partners? Etc...
     
  10. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 25, 2007

    I would say they are allies of one another and they did have their own independent sovereign governments. However, Corellia is the capital of the Corellian sector and they had colonies and hegemony over other regions of the Galaxy. Corellia and Drall were conquered by the Rakata before the Republic, while the Selonians just went into hiding. Both the Drall and Selonians were advanced, but more so on the former, though Selonia eventually built a shipyard similar to one around Corellia.

    The other two planets in the system were Talus and Tralus and they were not independent from the start. They fought a war with Corellia, Drall, and Selonia for their independence in c. 500 BBY.
     
  11. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    Sep 29, 2005
    The issue of colonies is a very interesting one. Sleeper ship-colonized worlds obviously had to grow and develop out of contact with their parent worlds. But what happened when the hyperdrive was introduced? Were there attempts to reassert control over sleeper colonies? How were hyperdrive-colonized worlds determined to be independent or dependent? It's a serious wrinkle in the early political situation. Most of the major non-Coruscant powers appear to have been sleeper-colonized; the most powerful sleeper colonies were probably obviously not worth the effort of trying to dominate. But smaller and less-successful sleeper colonies may have more easily fallen back under the sway of parent worlds once reunited by hyperdrive -- or under the sway of nearby powers that weren't their parent worlds, setting up potential conflict. With the advent of the hyperdrive, there would have been even more potential for conflict over independent status as worlds began setting up colonial empires. Conflict over colonization of unsettled worlds may have been a significant source of tension between powers, and was likely one of the major internal problems for the early Republic. I'm guessing that the Unification Wars are a blanket category for various colonial wars -- between empires, between parent worlds and colonies -- that ended up resolving in favor of "unification" within the Republic on relatively equal terms, where disputes could be handled within legal channels of a higher authority. Similar to World War I leading to the formation of the League of Nations, except the Republic actually kind of worked. Which may have something to do with the additional twist of the specter of the Rakata threat providing an impetus to eliminate internal conflict and focus on unity.
     
  12. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Feb 17, 2004
    What if you got on a sleeper ship and it finally arrives at its destination and its been colonized for a century because they developed the hyperdrive right after you left and went there?
     
  13. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    Sep 29, 2005
    That would be an interesting scenario. Though, logically, it would make the most sense to send a hyperdrive-equipped ship to intercept the sleeper ship and ferry them to their destination. Now, a millennia-old, abandoned sleeper ship floating between the stars would make an interesting setting . . .

    A similar scenario would be for a sleeper ship to arrive at a planet, only to find a sleeper ship from another planet has already landed there and colonized it. You could get mingled societies, you could get wars, you could get planets with two distinct cultures because the Alderaanians colonized the northern continent and the Esselians colonized the southern continent.
     
  14. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

    Registered:
    Dec 16, 2012
     
  15. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    May 28, 2003
    Fantastic post, Hav. Just the sort of discussion I was hoping this thread would generate. [:D]

    When Coruscanti hyperspace scouts first visited their millennia old colonies, I can only image it was an Apollo program like moment. An effort to explore the stars and make contact with distant colonies that they had no way of knowing survived or not. Truly awesome star pioneer stuff, which would make for an amazing story. Those initial first decades after the hyperdrive allowed them to reconnect must of been incredibly fascinating. I can only assume that in some cases, "first contact" was peaceful or welcomed, whereas other instances they were met with suspicion or trepidation. Some of these early sleeper colonists knew probably assumed that their former, ancient homes were still enslaved, so seeing advanced starships full of humans must of been unsettling, regardless if they were like "Hi, we are cousins from the mother country!".

    As for the Unification Wars, I think we all seem to agree now that they were not some massive, Core wide war, but a series of unlinked battles, events, and skirmishes that were lumped into one event by later historians. At the time, they all appeared unconnected, but to a Republic historian in 17,000 BBY, that series of events was a prime mover towards the creation of the Republic.

    --Adm. Nick
     
    Havac and Iron_lord like this.
  16. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 25, 2007
    The generational/sleeper ship scenario posed above would certainly make for some interesting situations. Considering the fact, at least as far as we know, that unfortunately generational ships, dimensional drive sleeper ships, and hyperspace travel are all happening in a relatively short amount of time on the timeline some overlap may have occurred. There are a few lines in the SWTOR encyclopedia where they mention Coruscant tracking one of its sleeper ships, the Lokani Dawn, for many years and it ended up being destroyed in a meteor shower.

    I can also imagine there was not a great amount of coordination once the colonies of Coruscant started launching their own efforts. That could have lead to some level of hostilities within the Core regarding who claimed what first.
     
  17. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Aug 25, 2013
    All I can think of reading this stuff is that someone needs to write more about these eras. The Unification Wars and Corsucant/Alsakan conflicts alone could probably generate as much material as the PT and OT eras.

    Of course, I suspect I'll be saying that a lot as this thread goes through the Republic's different eras.
     
    AusStig and darthscott3457 like this.
  18. karilyan

    karilyan Jedi Knight

    Registered:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Regarding the generational ships/hyperspace conundrum:

    I couldnt think of a reason why the Colonies themselves would want to start their own sub-colonies. So maybe those sub-colonies could be formed by the late arriving generational ships?
     
  19. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Aug 10, 2005
    Concerning the early colonies: I wonder if, during this time, it was common for multiple planets within a solar system to be colonized and, if so, what their status was relative to others in their systems. If I remember correctly, Coursicant's equivalent to Mars is populated, if only modestly so.

    About core worlds that weren't founders: In addition to being mere colonies, maybe some of them hadn't been settled yet, or maybe they were independent at the time and only joined later?
     
  20. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 25, 2007
    I was wondering the same thing about multiple colonies within a star system, especially in the case of Anaxes and Axum. Though it seems they are independent of one another I can also see the case for Anaxes being a colony or of equivalent standing to Axum.

    I guess you could say a similar situation to some extent exists with the Corellian system, and with Alderaan and Delaya. I certainly would think it would happen frequently with regards to multiple planets and moons being populated within a system.
     
    Iron_lord likes this.
  21. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

    Registered:
    Oct 29, 2005
    I wish I had more time to participate in these discussions, but I am enjoying the hell out of reading the posts. :D
     
    AdmiralNick22 likes this.
  22. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    May 28, 2003
    Topic #3: The Founding of the Republic, Part. 1 - The Galactic Constitutional Convention

    "When power is invested in many, it can never be seized by one! That was the plan and the purpose when the Republic was formed." - Bail Organa

    [​IMG]

    Sometime prior to 25,053 BBY, the Coruscanti called for the major worlds of the Core to send delegates to Coruscant to discuss the formation of a greater union between them. Cooperation between the Core Worlds wasn't unheard of, with the Coruscanti, Corellians, and Duros all having some sort of alliance prior to the formation of the Republic, per FFG's Sons of Fortune. Cooperation on scouting worlds, establishing hyperlanes, and promoting trade all drove the Core Worlds closer during the period between 25,200 BBY when there was a general revolt of Rakatan slave species and 25,053 BBY. In a scant two centuries, the former Rakatan slaves reverse engineered a stable hyperdrive, established contact with their neighbors, and began to coalesce into a community. In this short two hundred year period, a second way of hyperdrive backed colonization further expanded the Core in "Tetrahedron", a term invented by a Duros hyperspatial phyiscist to describe the semi-circle region of the Core that served as the borders of the Republic at it's founding.

    Of course, we know very little about the Galactic Convention and the Constitution itself. The points below represent the near totality of our current knowledge:

    1. Coruscant called the convention and it was held there.
    2. There were at least 17 signatories to the constitution.
    3. It was written primarily by a member of the Organa Family.
    4. It established a Galactic Senate, the primary legislative body of the new government.
    5. A Supreme Chancellor was the elected chief executive of the Republic, voted on by the Senate
    6. The Galactic Court was established as the new union's judicial branch.
    7. Basic was declared the official language of the new government.
    8. The Galactic Credit was made the official currency of the new government.
    9. It contained the Rights of Sentience, which decreed all sentient species are equal under Republic law.
    10. There was a passage, potentially in the Rights of Sentience, outlawing slavery.
    11. The Coruscant Accords, potentially part of this document itself, outlined the manner with with new worlds could be admited to the Republic.
    12. Some colony worlds, such as Corfai, where not invited to the convention.
    13. The proviso Contemplanys Hermi was included, which allowed the Corellian Sector the option to recall it's senatorial delegation and close it's borders, while still retaining status as a Republic member world.

    [​IMG]


    Whether it was the fear of a return of the Rakata, the affects of the Unification Wars, the growing sense of connection, some other unknown factor, or all of the above, the worlds of the Core agreed to unite under the banners of the Galactic Republic. It is an event that combines the significance of the founding of the Roman Republic, the Magna Carta, the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, the formation of the United Nations, the establishment of NATO & the European Union, and numerous other real world events all into one.

    Hopefully, one day this story will be told, but until then, discuss! :p

    --Adm. Nick
     
  23. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 25, 2007
    It would certainly be great if they ever put out a copy of the Constitution in one of the future reference books.

    I would suspect there would probably be something in there akin to the NATO provision, where an attack on one member state is equivalent to an attack on all members. Maybe an outline the minimum military obligations of each member state and the relationship between the Republic military and the individual planetary militaries. Though I guess the since the centralized Republic military didn't really exist till the Tionese War and that typically wasn't the norm, I wonder if there were provisions for its existence anyway from the start? If there were any such provisions, I would speculate limitations may have been put on a centralized Republic military, pretty much the opposite military situation of the Ruusan Reformations and the Second Galactic Civil War.

    In addition to the military alliance aspect of the Constitution, I am sure the political and economic relationships between the sovereign member states and the Republic were laid out in great detail as to make clear lines of jurisdiction as well. Going back to previous discussions, I would think the balance of power would lie individual planets, though over time this relationship would oscillate over the coming millenia.

    Though above all the Rights of Sentience would probably be the hallmark of the document, guaranteeing the freedoms and liberties of those living in the Republic, while making sure the member states upheld those important values as well. Surely a lot of emphasis would be dedicated towards slavery, considering the still fresh scars left by the Rakata.

    In addition to the list above, wasn't there something else about there being a rule that a planet had to have a single world government before they could become a member? I thought I remember reading that as an aside in one of the sourcebooks.
     
  24. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Dec 5, 2004
    That is very interesting. It would explain why most planets in the galaxy seem to be controlled by nasty little hereditary monarchies or oligarchies. I remember reading quite a few complaints around here about TCW showing too many planetary monarchs, but if there were such a provision, Republic membership would basically be dooming member-planets to perpetual tyranny (the Alderaanian Houses are a very good example -- for thousands of years, Alderaanians have been ruled by a few noble families in a closed system).

    Thank God for the Outer Rim, I say.
     
  25. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Aug 10, 2005
    A lot of those monarchies are out there on the rim.


    Truth be told, I can't help but wonder how many of them are rich people buying planets and then making themsevles kings and queens.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.