Amph Game Of Thrones (uh i guess it's done now? Edit: No!)

It's what I call... The Jabba-wocky Effect...

 

No, he just looked at their bodies wrapped in bloody cloaks, shrugged, and said "**** happens."

 

Considering wocky's Oberynesque affinity for Elia Martell, I assume her and her childrens' murder is what he's referring to. Then again, he doesn't like Rhaegar either.

 

It's not like he murdered Margaery's virtue... she did that herself!

 

That Robert's greatest crime is the deaths of three innocents at the hands of a rogue lord really says something about how relatively just he was. Think Tywin would have forgiven Mace Tyrell for laying siege to his home for over a year?

 

Rhaegar did some stupid things. Instead of just running off with Lyanna because of a prophecy he heard* and pissing off her brother, he first should have figured out a way to force his psychotic dad to abdicate. He told Jaime he'd fix things after he got back from the Trident. Oops.

*No, I don't know exactly what he heard, but I know who he probably heard it from and it probably included the TITLE DROP "a song of ice and fire."

 

He should have killed him.

 

That doesn't tend to work out well, especially for the Targs.

 

Rhaegar's abuse of her stretched out over years and years. Rather than spreading out his cruelty at random, he retained enough of his sanity to focus it all on one undeserving person. That's not at all to his credit.

Also, PG your apologetics fall flat. He could easily have attainted House Clegane for its crimes. Instead, he elevated the Lannisters and estranged the family of the victims. His moral universe is entirely inverted, as is no surprise given his habits in alcohol.

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/jon-snow-alive-game-of-thrones-comic-con?
That is all.

 

Should be a few good Jon Snow Lives! gags happening in the next few months, especially coming out of comic con. I'm down.

 

I love how the speculation is "IS JON SNOW DEAD?" Yes. Yes, he is. It's almost as though the writers of these clickbait articles don't remember a guy appearing who had been resurrected from the dead multiple times by a Red Priest.

 

like you wouldn't*

*for the purposes of this post you are not married.

 

I just had an idea, about Melisandre and Jon in the next season.

What if, instead of going all Red Priestress on us, Melisandre becomes despondent, depressed and suicidal after Jon's death? She just realised that she's backed the wrong King, after all, what with Stannis being soundly routed (and killed, though she may not know that yet), and we see her pretty shaken as she arrives at Castle Back in the last episode. She very well might have lost any hope that her visions are accurate, thinking she's lost her path to the Lord of Light. So, as Jon gets his funeral, burned by the Night's Watch (however much they won't like to give him the honour, they wouldn't want him as a White Walker, either), she walks to the pyre and seizes Longclaw lying on Jon's body, and pierces her breast in desperation, humbled at last after her bout of hubris. Cue Longclaw becoming Lightbringer at that instant, tempered in blood and fire, and Jon rising from the ashes (a life for a life, said Mirri Maz Duur) as Azor Ahai.

Technically, Jon wouldn't be the Night's Watch commander, and could therefore intervene in the affairs of men. And supposing that R+L=J, and that Sansa has the good idea to seek shelter with Jon (and possibly marry him as an endgame), then we could see the North rising as one against the White Walkers. In the meantime, Dany would have sorted herself out with the Dorthraki and brought her dragons to Westeros, to join the fight. Who eventually sits on the Iron Throne after that is up for debate...

 

Wait a sec, assassination is a war crime?

 

Rhaegar didn't run off with Lyanna because of the supposed prophecy, he simply fell in love and everything went to hell as a direct result of his actions - although the destruction of the Targaryen dynasty was merely a firestorm waiting to happen, much as WWI erupted.
Robert Baratheon and the Starks declared war upon the Targaryens for Rhaegar's alleged abduction of Lyanna Stark and the subsequent murder of Rickon and Brandon Stark when they demanded her return, but the war would have occurred soon enough anyway, regardless. Aerys II was a psychopath, he would have managed to do something monstrous enough to start a rebellion soon enough.

What little we know of said prophecy indicates that Rhaegar was mistaken about it anyway - if the most popular theory surrounding the entire series is correct, and one plot development in the books is fraudulent.

All we really know of Rhaegar and the prophecy is via a vision glimpsed by Dany that wasn't represented in the show, which:
a) Given the other people involved, presumably predates any involvement between Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark and;
b) Is just a vision, and doesn't necessarily portray something that actually happened.

I'm inclined to think that ASOIAF will end with all such prophecies and entitlements rendered utterly meaningless, with the smallfolk portrayed as simply enduring past a long winter, while the Iron Throne rusts, and all the kings, queens, lords and ladies suffer and rot after their 'game of thrones' has come to a very bitter end.

 

There's much more background to the revolt. It didn't start until Aerys brutally murdered Ned's father and brother, along with several other lords, who demanded Lyanna's return. But there are also hints about Rickard Stark's "Southron Ambitions", the network of arranged marriages he, House Tully, House Arryn and others were putting into place, which indicate that Aerys was not entirely wrong in his paranoia.

 

Yeah, there was clearly something going on because from what we know of the history the great houses rarely intermarry. The Tyrells had no eligible children at the time and Tywin and the Martells were too close to Aerys and Rhaegar. Rickard Stark and Jon Arryn probably manipulated Robert Baratheon, the adolescent lord of Storm's End, into becoming infatuated with Lyanna.

They obviously wanted enough houses allied to scare the Iron Throne, but I doubt they intended to overthrow the Targaryens. Either they wanted Rhaegar on the throne or they wanted to call a Great Council (two had been called before to choose a new king).