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[GEN] Posting the same message in two different threads in two different forums

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Esperanza_Nueva, Jul 23, 2004.

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  1. Esperanza_Nueva

    Esperanza_Nueva Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Ok, I just have a quick question. Would it be considered spam or is it wrong to post the same message in two different threads in two different forums (when the message is relevant to both threads)? For instance, there are two threads discussing the new King Arthur movie, one in The Amphitheatre and the other in the YJCC. I replied to the King Arthur thread in the YJCC, but then realized that what I had posted would probably be better placed in the King Arthur thread in The Amphitheatre, since The Amphitheatre is more of a "discussion forum." Anyways, I was just wondering if this was acceptable?


    Afterthought- I guess I should have asked this before I posted in both threads. Crap. Well, I apologize if that is in fact unacceptable. [face_worried]
     
  2. zacparis

    zacparis VIP star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I can think of many threads in the JCC that mirror threads in the Amphitheatre, and vice versa. So I guess it's acceptable.
     
  3. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I personally think its ok to do so. The groups of posters are different between the JCC and the Amp, so probably both threads would appreciate your input.
     
  4. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I know, we're all afraid of a "definition of spam", but isn't one that spam doesn't add anything to a discussion?
    A longer, thoughtful post wouldn't fit that criteria, would it? ;)

     
  5. Keeper_of_Swords

    Keeper_of_Swords Jedi Master star 5

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    I made those two Arthur threads in different forums and it was after I did that I read the rules, and interpreted the "posting the same info" as against the rules.

    So I PM'd a mod to delete the thread in the Amphitheatre and was told that it's ok for the two threads to remain cause overlapping of discussion takes place in the Community and Amphithatre forums.

    So I guess there was no problem with those two posts.

     
  6. DarthAttorney

    DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sounds like your two mods need slapping around the head and face because posting the same message more than once, regardless of what forum it's in, is spam.
     
  7. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    even if both posts are actually relevant to the discussion?
    also.... more than once? Really? Thread, yes, but replies?

    hey, we're being nice for a change!
     
  8. Kimball_Kinnison

    Kimball_Kinnison Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sounds like your two mods need slapping around the head and face because posting the same message more than once, regardless of what forum it's in, is spam.

    Actually, a lot depends on what the message is and how on-topic is it.

    Posting the smae thread in multiple forums is treated as spamming (except when directed to do so by a mod, such as when you are redirected to another forum).

    However, often two threads in two different forums overlap. For example, if a news article came up about Iraq, a user might post it in both the JCC and the Senate Iraq threads, where it would be on-topic, but the two discussions would be of a completely different nature.

    THere are limits, though. If we identify a pattern of such posting, it would be more likely to be considered spam than otherwise.

    Kimball Kinnison
     
  9. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes, it's spam. But, there's absolutely no reason to take any action against it.
     
  10. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sounds like your two mods need slapping around the head and face because posting the same message more than once, regardless of what forum it's in, is spam.

    Hmmmm. I don't think that's true in 100% of cases, so I'll see if I can think of a counterexample. What if a person wanted to post a thread about Episode III and put a spoiler version in SA and a non-spoiler version in NS? Those two communities are non-overlapping enough that I don't think many members would encounter both copies of the thread. Is that still spam?
     
  11. mac-nut

    mac-nut Jedi Knight star 5

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    I hardly think that is hard core spam. when one answer will answer questions in more than one thread, it should not be necessary to rephrase each time. spammette, at the worse. now, if the same answer is used to knee jerk someone or prod a flame or start a spam fight, welll, that is a different situation.
     
  12. MITH

    MITH Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I post the same message in two JCC threads at times.
     
  13. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    I post the same message all the time in multiple forums when I update identical threads in the MS and Comms, such as the Forum Architecture threads. If the user is doing this in unrelated threads and it has little to do with the topic at hand, AND it occurs time and time again, then we've got a problem to address as it MAY constitute spam or it could be the early signs of a posting pattern that will ultimately develop into spam.
     
  14. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    DLM...
    "Is that still spam?"

    Defer to the standard internet definition which has existed since before the web was born.

    Spam is the excessive cross-posting of a message. If your hypothetical scenario fits that bill, then it's definitely spam.
     
  15. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Before the Internet, spam was merely a delicious canned meat not requiring refrigeration.
     
  16. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Which is why I said "...before the web..." not "before the internet" :p
     
  17. Esperanza_Nueva

    Esperanza_Nueva Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Spam is the excessive cross-posting of a message.

    My question still is that if you post the same message (and it is relevant) in two different threads in two different forums, is that considered "excessive"? From the answers I've read here, it doesn't seem to be, but there also seem to be some people who do think it is spam, so I guess I'm still just a little bit confused.
     
  18. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    One time like that isn't really spam. It's making that a behavior day after day that constitutes spam.
     
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