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Lit GENERAL QUESTION THREAD (What to read? Where to start? What's canon? What's not? Duros, etc.)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Master_Keralys, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 4

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    My understanding was that it was originally meant to be ambiguous, that is how it was written, there is no way to tell from the writing whether it was Bane having assumed Zannah's identity, or Zannah herself with a remnant of Bane remaining, or even an equal amalgamation of both, creating a new personality. It is obviously not clear, like Karpyshyn later said. Every reader was meant to have their own idea on which it was, there would be no right or wrong answer. But I read somewhere that Drew Karpyshyn got so many fans asking him who won, that he just got sick of it and wrote that blog post. That is why he sounds a bit annoyed there.
     
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  2. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, I thought it was one of the cooler parts of the series, mainly because it *was* ambiguous, and looked as if it were meant to be intentionally, which is a literary device we don't often get in SW.
     
  3. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes, it certainly makes for a better ending and creates that discussion point.

    The same kind of thing happened to Drew's Revan character in KotOR. There was no canon gender for Reven, or canon way to play and end the game, and fans were free to discuss which version of Revan they preferred or thought worked best in the story. But then all the mystery was taken away when someone at LFL decided that Revan would be a lightsided man in canon encyclopedia publications.

    Of course, years later, EA then paid him $$$$ to write the Revan novel and totally ruin the character.
     
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  4. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    Should maybe mention that the external batteries are only large in compares to the 'sabre's hilt, if I remember rights was the batter packs around Walkman sized (can anybody back me up on this?)
     
  5. Darth Zack

    Darth Zack Jedi Knight star 1

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    Can anybody help me with my Legends reading list? Here's what I have so far:

    Death Star- read
    Star Wars IV A New Hope novelization - read
    Splinter of the Minds Eye - read
    Star Wars V The Empire Strikes Back novelization - read
    Shadows of the Empire - read
    Star Wars VI Return of the Jedi novelization- read
    The Truce at Bakura - read
    Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor - read
    X-Wing: Rogue Squadron- read
    X-Wing: Wedge’s Gamble - read
    X-Wing: The Krytos Trap - read
    X-Wing: The Bacta War - read
    X-Wing: Wraith Squadron
    X-Wing: Iron Fist
    X-Wing: Solo Command
    The Courtship of Princess Leia
    Tatooine Ghost
    Heir to the Empire
    Dark Force Rising
    The Last Command
    X-Wing: Isard’s Revenge

    All novels on the list so far, but I have also been reading some graphic novels recently as well. I am wondering if I should add them to this list or keep them seperate. I'm not certain if I'd want to commit to reading all the comics that happen to fall in this time period. I am at least planning on reading Dark Empire at some point. There are earlier novels like the Han Solo Trilogy I want to go back and read too. I am planning on reading at least up to the Hand of Thrawn duology as part of this effort.
     
  6. comradepitrovsky

    comradepitrovsky Jedi Knight star 3

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    Read Courtship before Wraith-Iron-Solo. While chronologically later, it was published earlier and the story reads better that way.
     
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  7. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    In Legends, has anyone ever controlled most or even all of the Outer Rim? I know the Rakata controlled Tatooine and a number of systems, but I don't think majority of them. Or was this ever addressed?
     
  8. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    The Atlas suggests the Infinite Empire was never actually contiguous. Pretty sure nobody has ever "actually" ruled the Outer Rim.
     
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  9. Darth Kickass

    Darth Kickass Jedi Knight star 3

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    When I went to my local shop today to pick up the new Star Wars issue, I was presented with a copy of "Tag and Bink Was Here" as well, since it had been put in my pull box as well. I immediately saw the Legends banner on the cover and remarked that I wasn't interested in collecting reprints from the Legends universe. I was then informed that the title was being brought into the new canon due to the characters' inclusion in the new Solo movie. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? I've never read it before, but I have read that the Tag and Bink stories were never considered canon, even in the old EU. I do know that Ron Howard tweeted a tease of the characters' potential inclusion in the new movie however.
     
  10. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Knight star 3

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    I can find nothing about this on the internet. And like you said even in Legends they were never considered canon (they're parodies). I think whoever told you this was mistaken. Even if Tag and Bink do appear as background characters in Solo like Ron Howard said, it dosn't bring the comics "back into canon". Just like Thrawn appearing on Rebels didn't mean The Thrawn Triliogy was made canon.
     
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  11. Darth Kickass

    Darth Kickass Jedi Knight star 3

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    I hadn't been able to find anything either, but I just wanted to see if anyone else had because I actually like and trust my local guy. He's actually been really informative and helpful in the past so I was hesitant to call B.S. when he said what he said. My gut instinct told me he just wanted me to pick it up so he'd get the sale but I didn't want to believe he'd do that. I just hope maybe he was misinformed himself and passed it on to me
     
  12. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 9 Staff Member Administrator

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    Apart from the question on Legends or not, I enjoyed the Tag and Bink stories.
     
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  13. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Knight star 3

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    I wouldn't worry about it, what is and isn't canon is an easy mistake to make.
     
  14. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    In between ROTS and ROTJ, did the average person living in the Empire know who Vader was?
     
  15. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Knight star 3

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    IIRC the Propaganda book seems to indicate that while he was always something of a boogeyman, Vader became more of a well known public figure after the destruction of the Death Star.
     
  16. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Protosaber

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  17. revan772

    revan772 Jedi Knight star 3

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    In regards to the Tag and Bink thing, it is not canon, will not be canon, was not even a part of Legends canon. It is pretty much the non canon backstory of two soon to be very canon background characters that may have their entire characters / story changed up.
     
  18. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    We'll probably get a line in the Visual Guide under a picture of Tag and Bink that says "their adventures were legendary" and we can all have a good chuckle over it.

    Sent from my SM-G386W using Tapatalk
     
  19. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    Is Chewie having a life debt to Han still canon? I know the absolutely everything you need to know, book said it was but that book is of dubious cannonicity
     
  20. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    Aftermath: Life Debt brings this into the new canon.

    Han:
    “I saved him, at least that’s what he says, the big fuzzy fool, but really, he saved me. I was on a bad path, and Chewie, he put me straight. Saved my shanks more than once too. He said it was part of some life debt… It means that he owes his life to me… He doesn’t owe me. I owe him. I got a debt to Chewie to get him his home back.”

    Now...how that will square with the Solo movie...[face_dunno]
     
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  21. comradepitrovsky

    comradepitrovsky Jedi Knight star 3

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    I'm writing some fanfic that involves a several of the Coruscanti underlevels rising up against the Republic a couple years into the Clone Wars. Not as part of the Separatists, per se, but a genuine uprising of the proletariat, etc. etc. But that isn't my question. What my question is what symbols and colors would be associated with revolutionary ideologies in the GFFA? Obviously, the tricolor, red as socialism, and so on and so forth wouldn't exist in the GFFA, but what would be likely/narratively interesting?

    I've been using this site - http://www.flagsofthegalaxy.com/#main-page - as a cool, non-canon but still interesting - resource.
     
  22. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Knight star 3

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    Not a direct answer, but according the TPM Visual Dictionary, "Lavender was chosen for the color of the Senate interior because it was the only hue that had never been associated with war, anger, or mourning in any culture in the Republic".

    So I think the answer to your question would be "it varies from planet to planet". It may seem like a cop-out answer, but I think it's accurate.
     
  23. firesaber

    firesaber Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't remember exactly and unfortunately don't have the books with me while I'm still doing the expat thing but, the under level imagery in the Knight Errant novels may offer some inspiration.

    Also, from the concept trailer and concept art depicting a portion of the under levels you can maybe get an idea as to what colors are not in use, which may make yours stand out more?

     
  24. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Force Ghost star 5

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    Maybe the blue-purple colour of the Senate Guards, could represent the Senate in general and the democratic ideals. It would contrast with the Imperial Red guard style.
     
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  25. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Knight star 3

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