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ST George Lucas and the Mystery of the Treatment

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Darth_Corvus, Aug 4, 2013.

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  1. ThreeDeathstickProblem

    ThreeDeathstickProblem Force Ghost star 5

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    Not really surprising that LFL doesn't want Rinzler's version of events to get press. One, he's a former employee so there's no lost love there, and two, he titled the blog "The rise and fall of Star Wars." That part about a "fall" doesn't sound like he is a fan of how things are turning out. It's exactly the kind of headline a few sites and bloggers would love to generate reams and reams of clickbait from, especially in light of Han Solo's production troubles.
     
  2. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't know, the tone of his blog seemed to be generally positive to me. And the problems he mentioned were fairly common knowledge such as the PT actors mixed reactions to the reception of the movies, it's not like he revealed highly sensitive information or anything too bad.
     
  3. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's also interesting to note that he started writing the blog the day after the Han Solo stuff hit the fan. I always had a feeling he was building up to an epic Disney/Kathleen Kennedy takedown.
     
  4. CloneWarsFan01

    CloneWarsFan01 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Dot want to call u out for authoritarianism. But, I've received word that ur guys in the message boards are censoring, banning and perma-banning people who are Prequel fans for criticizing and giving negative opinions on Disney, TFA and Rogue One and are not banning people who dump on GL and his Prequels. And, I also heard you deleted a forum dedicated to Rinzler. Is that true? If it is, you should be ashamed for what you are doing: taking away freedom of speech and banning people for being loyal to GL and defending him.

    BTW, this link is where I got the info: https://thestarwarsdefender.blogspot.com/2017/07/loose-lips-sink-starships.html
     
  5. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    As someone with a ban button, keep in mind that I have not once banned anyone for merely "defending" the prequels or George Lucas, while I have banned numerous people for excessively bashing the prequels (and by default fans of those films) and antagonizing fans of George Lucas. The bottom line is: You can be for or against anything on here so long as you are not beating others over the head with facts opining for disagreeing with you. Freedom of speech is more than welcome here. Being an a-hole to others with opposing views is not.
     
  6. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Well if one random blog on the internet says it it must be true! Right?
     
  7. CloneWarsFan01

    CloneWarsFan01 Jedi Knight star 2

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    It's what I've heard. I wanna know from you if that's true. No BS. Just please tell me the truth.
     
  8. Artoo-Dion

    Artoo-Dion Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You've gotten the truth. And having scanned over the linked blog post, I can't even see the reference to these claims.
     
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  9. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    What you've heard is not true.
    We do not under any circumstance ban people for their opinions. We ban people if they break our rules.
    I promise that there is no selective modding regarding "prequel fans" vs "Disney era fans".

    And as for a Rinzler forum being deleted - certainly not here. We've never had a Rinzler forum.
     
  10. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I did tell you the truth. Plainly. That you skipped that response in order to zero in on the one that left room to continue perpetuating myths about our forum says a lot about your agenda.
     
  11. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    As a member of Mod Squad I can tell you the truth is it's nonsense. As a member here for close to five years now I can tell you I've never once been warned or banned for speaking highly of the prequels and George Lucas. There is no conspiracy against those who don't like the current films. All we ask is for users to be respectful of each other and follow the other rules outlined in the TOS. Those who refuse to do so do tend to get banned.
     
  12. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    As a former mod here going back more years than I care to remember I can't believe that would happen.

    I have noticed some familiar faces from the PT forum have "disappeared" recently ( Cryogenic for example) but without know the full "in's and out's" it's hard to say whether the banning's are justified or not. In my day people were never banned much less perma-banned without good reason and I can't believe that would have changed just because Lucas is no longer the owner of Star Wars.

    I would say more generally, I've noticed that if you happen not to like the new films and the direction Disney is taking Star Wars in the response here is pretty brutal now (not from the administration but from forum members) Certainly I have myself felt pretty manhandled and intimidated at times when I've posted my honest views of recent Star Wars content... But I couldn't care less what anybody thinks about me here so it's water off a ducks back. For newer members or people who aren't as tough as old boots like I am I can imagine the JC could be a tough place it you don't like the direction Disney is taking...

    Although I can't really complain as the Boards during the Prequel era were probably just as brutal to those that didn't like the Prequels as they are to those that don't like Disney Star Wars.

    It's ironic that after years of being a "gusher" of Star Wars on here I now find myself in the position of a "Basher" lol (although I very rarely post on the movie forums anyway as I don't really like being negative or spreading negativity to others)
     
  13. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    Are you actually joking?
     
  14. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Heck, I'm a prequel (Saga fan, but I rewatch the PT more than OT - it's a slightly bigger favorite of mine) fan, who likes but has plenty of criticism for TFA. While there's maybe a *few* (in the past, mainly) I'd like to ban for incessant negativity towards the prequels, I've never done so.

    Differences of opinion are not just tolerated, but welcome. Arguing one's viewpoint is the correct one, demeaning others' viewpoints, suggesting there is something "wrong" with other posters for having a different viewpoint...that is what is moderated.
     
  15. Martoto77

    Martoto77 Jedi Master star 5

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    Maybe it's Lucasfilm that have deleted and selectively banned people.
    [​IMG]
     
  16. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    Lucasfilm, deleting people?
    They've really upped the ante!
     
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  17. Martoto77

    Martoto77 Jedi Master star 5

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    That's why Disney were keen to buy them. So they can have that power for themselves.
     
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  18. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    Their initial efforts using Dip had messy consequences.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Sithblade11

    Sithblade11 Jedi Master star 1

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    I did start a Rinzler threadwhen he started his blog but it got moved the the random content thread.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
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  20. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    I recall that thread. I posted the link because I knew Rinzler was a big deal here. I was reading the JWR blog, but because of the abnormal schedule, I'd just check in once a week. When the 404 error came up, this was the first place I came for info on what happened. I searched for your thread and couldn't find it.

    Was really looking forward to reading the finished blog. It is pretty obvious that the Lucasfilm culture has changed pretty dramatically, and not for the better.
     
  21. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    [​IMG]

    We ban people for liking the Prequels.
    We ban people for liking Qui-Gon Jinn.
    We wiped out the fans of Darth Maul. Aaaaall of them.:emperor:
    Indeed, we've utterly eradicated any and all evidence of support for the creator of the Star Wars Saga [face_skull]

    In case you hadn't guessed, that was sarcasm. Miss us with this nonsense.
     
  22. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I had to ban myself the other day for saying Yippee out loud.
     
  23. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "That's a good trick!"
     
  24. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Didn't I ban you last week when you came into Mod Squad wearing that "I Love Jar Jar Binks" shirt? Repeat offender! :p
     
  25. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Maybe it's a cry for help.
     
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