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George Lucas wusses out, cuts Jar Jar's lines

Discussion in 'Revenge of the Sith' started by BothofUs, May 4, 2005.

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  1. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Jar Jar has one line of dialogue, but it's muted enough that unless you recognize it, you wouldn't realize it's him.
     
  2. TheCRZA

    TheCRZA Jedi Padawan star 4

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    'scuse me.


     
  3. shadowplay_80

    shadowplay_80 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think Jar-Jar should be inserted into ROTJ in the next release.
    All scenes with the Emperor should have a chain digitally added in his hand, which connects to Jar-Jar's collar. He leads him all over by this leash, thus symbolizing how he has taken control of all that was once fun and pure in the galaxy.

    Then at the end, when the Emperor is zapping Luke, Jar-Jar accidentally gets in the way, which causes them to get tangled in the chain and both fall down the shaft.
    Vader sees this and starts laughing uncontrollably. He apologizes to Luke for all the evil he has done, and Luke offers to take him back to see Leia and make ammends. But it's already too late. He's laughed himself...to death!

    Having a sense of humor is the key to happiness.
     
  4. Uric-Qel-Droma

    Uric-Qel-Droma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jar Jar not being in ROTS (or not having any dialogue that was apparent) was a smart move. I can't see how he would have fit into the narrative, if anything he would have slowed it down.
     
  5. That_Random_Jedi

    That_Random_Jedi Jedi Master star 3

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    You say 'cut Jar Jar's lines' as if that were a bad thing.
     
  6. Boba_Fett_00

    Boba_Fett_00 Jedi Master star 4

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    I relized that it was him, it was obivious the same audio used from TPM. I hate Jar Jar............
     
  7. JMN77

    JMN77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ...Landing platform/ Coruscant: Orn Free Ta: "Watch it!" Jar-Jar: "Scuse me"
     
  8. MANDALORIAN

    MANDALORIAN Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yep. Thats screenwriting gold right there. Lucas is a genius!

     
  9. dorkstar

    dorkstar Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Oh, please. Shoot me... now!

    Jar Jar = Suck Suck

     
  10. JMN77

    JMN77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Gold it is! I was just saying that he does have a line and that's all that is needed. He's done his job, his story was told. He helped save Naboo, I guess...("my give up, my give up") came to mind... and he proposed the Chancellor get emergency powers. Job. Done.
     
  11. JawaStew

    JawaStew Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Two things about Jar Jar:

    1) He would have been infinitely better had they given him a less annoying voice. Even the very same lines could have worked out way better. Slapstick-wise, he wasn't too bad.

    2) He should have given him just two more brief bits in AOTC to phase him out a tiny bit more slowly - then he'd look less like the move was a knee-jerk response to fan disgust. He didn't have really any place beyond what he already had in ROTS.
     
  12. dark_jedi_order

    dark_jedi_order Jedi Youngling

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    "Annie" (UGggggh)

    I hate that nickname too! I can't believe that it was written into AOTC. It makes Anakin seem like he's still a kid who hasn't grown up. Although...
     
  13. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Irrespective of the fact that Jar Jar was crap, having a comic, slapstick character like that would never have worked in a film as dark as ROTS. Even 3PO's lines are cut to a bare minimum for the same reason.
     
  14. KylieKenobi

    KylieKenobi Jedi Master star 1

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    I'm sorry all Jar Jr lovers, but i think that Jar JAr's one line " exscuse me " was more than enough! I personally would have liked to have seen him being killed by Anakin, it would have been so funny!
     
  15. Anagorn

    Anagorn Jedi Youngling star 3

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    TPM 30% Jar Jar
    AOTC 5% Jar Jar
    ROTS 0,01% Jar Jar
    Good Damn Riddance!
    *Nuff Said*
     
  16. JediCouncilMaster

    JediCouncilMaster Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I didn't think George Lucas "wussed out." Well, in fact, he listened to people's opinions and statements. "We hate Jar Jar" and "He ruined Star Wars" etc. So George helped us in a way. He made Jar Jar shut up (or almost) in the movie. He actually saved us from getting ticked off. :cool:
     
  17. DragonBalls

    DragonBalls Jedi Youngling

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    I hate Jar Jar but George Lucas should have not wusses out. Its his movie and he should be able to do what he likes.
     
  18. BothofUs

    BothofUs Jedi Padawan star 4

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    whoa my topic got bumped.

    Imagine how much more repect you would have had for GL if he could have made Jar Jar work in the film, making the PT feeling less polarized.
     
  19. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Lucas didn't wuss out, in the end he was the one who decided to trip Jar-Jar's lines.

    At the same time he deleted the great bulk of Padme's scenes with the future leaders of the rebellion, something that I would say is more important to the overall saga than Jar-Jar tripping over something new.

    Lucas felt Jar-Jar was a huge success with his target audience (children) and women. He has gone on record a number of times to dismiss the anti-Jar-Jar sentiment as coming from a group of people he knew wouldn't like it. He flat out says he isn't going out of his way to please these people.

    The reason Jar-Jar's screentime was cut down was because the story centers in on Anakin.

    I don't think the films seem polarized becase of this. Just as I didn't feel it polorized the classic trilogy to have Obi-Wan die in the first movie.
     
  20. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jar Jar got a whole close-up shot focused on him (and Boss Nass) during one of the most powerful scenes in ROTS (and there are quite a few), namely the funeral.

    I think this was a great move by GL, as I personally am a fan of Jar Jar.
     
  21. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is the darkest film, so the characters who are the lightest needed to take a backseat. That's why Threepio is serious, Artoo is funny at the start and Jar Jar doesn't speak much.
     
  22. mastersith69

    mastersith69 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    i as well feel that lucas listened to the fans hatred towards jar jar. i think jar jar would of been a great character to add but it was the simple fact of his voice sounding to much like a jamaican stoner. how his voice been differeent he would of worked and not of been so annoying.
     
  23. Mos_Eisley

    Mos_Eisley Jedi Youngling star 3

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    [/quote] Gold it is! I was just saying that he does have a line and that's all that is needed. He's done his job, his story was told. He helped save Naboo, I guess...("my give up, my give up") came to mind... and he proposed the Chancellor get emergency powers. Job. Done. [/quote]

    Don't forget Admiral Ackbar's heroic line in ROTJ: "All craft prepare to retreat!"
     
  24. Mos_Eisley

    Mos_Eisley Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Generally speaking, I don't think any artist should let other people be the driving force in dictating what to do or don't do or what to say or not say in their work.

    This is particularly relevant in the age of the Internet and insta-polls where everyone seems to carry delusions of grandeur in having their opinions carry more weight than people who actually do it for a living.

    Sadly, I think many studios are now buying into the Internet as the new focus group for making movies.

    For example:

    Fanboy A posted this so we should incorporate that into the sequel but don't forget to also incorporate Fanboy B's recipe for success even though it completely contradicts Fanboy A who is also an expert.
     
  25. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lucas doesn't listen to negative fan reaction. Well, he hears it, but he doesn't care. He only cut Jar Jar down because this story is darker and there's nothing for him to do in this film. Hence he's only a background character. Much of his arc was finished in AOTC. He's there mostly as a connection to the story from TPM. That of unity between the Gungans and the Naboo.
     
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