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Get off Lucas' back!!!

Discussion in 'Attack of the Clones' started by DarthWolfie, Jul 7, 2002.

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  1. Imperial_Guard

    Imperial_Guard Jedi Padawan star 4

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    when gushers were hunted down Planet of the Apes-style by roving bands of bashers [face_laugh] That's probably one of the best descriptions of the fabled old school TPM forums that I've heard so far.

    I don't mind criticism but I can't help but find it somewhat entertaining when people who absolutely despised AOTC keep taking time out of their schedules to come back and remind us how much they hated it and how people who enjoyed it are a bunch of idiots, etc, etc. Could they not use some of that energy to find something that they might enjoy?
     
  2. Nephrite

    Nephrite Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Imperial_Guard I completly agree with you.
    I mean I don't like The Matrix, but you don't see me hanging out on Matrix message boards calling people stupid for watching the movie. If they like it let them enjoy discussing 'bout it.
     
  3. DarthBane93

    DarthBane93 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I will give GL this much credit:

    1. For coming up with a brilliant story and creating our beloved characters in the SW saga.

    2. For having such a detailed imagination.

    3. Using his technology well.

    4. For directing 2 awesome films: American Grafitti and the original SW.

    That is all.
     
  4. rafterman

    rafterman Jedi Youngling star 1

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    a lot of fans think that just because they buy so much Star Wars stuff they are allowed to over criticize and complain, when the best way to show your disgust is just to not buy the stuff....face it, this is George's baby and who cares what we think....he'll make it regardless....we have no right to complain about something that someone is willing to put out for us to see....
     
  5. MD-O

    MD-O Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Although I didn't hate TPM from beginning to end, there were some aspects of the movie that were hmm...let's say bold choices by Lucas. Sorry, but all the analysis and endless debates over TPM by fans and critics were to be expected. Lucas made some interesting and controversial decisions with this movie. He reaped what he sowed.

    I do think Lucas has taken unfair criticism in regards to AOTC though. To be branded a failure by some because it may "only" make $300 million in domestic box office is really a cheap shot. I also think the nitpicking by some fans over certain aspects of the movie is extreme. AOTC was clearly a great addition to the saga and shows that Lucas is a much better director than he gets credit for.
     
  6. DarthWolfie

    DarthWolfie Jedi Youngling

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    Thanks for the replies everyone, good to see a bit of debate. In response to all the people who have said that GL shouldn't be above criticism, I agree. I never actually said that and if it was implied I didn't mean it. All I'm saying is that I'm tired of hearing people say how Lucas should've done this, Lucas should've done that, rather than just accepting that he's done what he chose to do with his creation (a good example is the CG clones thread: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=6917115&page=10 ). If you didn't like it or thought you could have done it better, tough. Like I said in my original post, if you came up with such an enchanting story as Star Wars then you'd have every right to make it how you wanted.
    Oh yeah, homeless_jedi, what's so bad about this thread? I don't see any reason why it should be locked, it's EpII related and shouldn't be offensive in any way.
     
  7. lori71

    lori71 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Why do people on these boards bash Lucas?

    I think it all boils down to this: "You always hurt the one you love!"

    Think about how, in your personal lives, you nitpick your husband/wife/brother/sister/boyfriend/girlfriend to death. GL has created a Star Wars family. With that familial relationship, comes bickering.
     
  8. DarthKarde

    DarthKarde Jedi Knight star 5

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    I don't think that fans should bash Lucas and although I thought that his directing of AOTC was bad I would never tell him not to direct Ep3. It's his movie and if he wants to direct it he should. However fans are entitled to criticise aspects of the movies that they don't like, this is not bashing, it is offering an opinion.
     
  9. Import_Jedi

    Import_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I think it all boils down to this: "You always hurt the one you love!"

    Yea, I've always had hidden feelings for the Flanneled One [face_love]



    [face_plain]
     
  10. darth_pooh

    darth_pooh Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In Light of the Recent Posting about Skywalker on Earth:

    I think Lucas better watch out because the agents of L.Ron Hubbard are onto his plans, and if "The Church of Skywalking" becomes a tax deductible organization...so will the IRS. How's that for getting off his back :p

    BTW, I can't get off GL's back because it's filling up the entire room! Baby got back!
     
  11. Import_Jedi

    Import_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    darth_pooh, please post a picture of padmepowerpuff here :)
     
  12. darth_pooh

    darth_pooh Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, since you're so interested. Here's one of her with Padme/Leia poofs on the side:

    [image=http://powerpuff.co.uk/images/bubbles/bubble12.jpg][/image]
     
  13. lori71

    lori71 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Import_Jedi,

    "Yea, I've always had hidden feelings for the Flanneled One" -- very cute!

    "The one you love" that I was referring to is the SW family as a whole...not just GL.

    Let me try to make my point with a little story. Think back to puberty. The little girls were wearing perfume and makeup the second their parents allowed it. The boys, on the other hand, came to the wonderful world of hygiene only after someone (usually Mom) just told them that they stink! In the basher's opinion, GL is a stinky little boy. (Flannel in Tunesia...pee-yuu :p ) That's the kind of brutal honesty from a loved one that I'm talking about.


     
  14. Ben-Obi-Wan-Kenobi

    Ben-Obi-Wan-Kenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well im sure "Import_Jedi" loves him
    with 5,083 posts

    u cant deny it
     
  15. -Ace-

    -Ace- Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I agree that people overly criticize GL because they feel intitled to the best damn movie there ever was, which is just not possible 6 times in a row.

    Also in all my years on these boards and communing with other Starwars fans, I have never once met anyone who has just loved any Starwars movie or product simply because it's Starwars. However, I have never had to look very far to find someone who absolutely hates Starwars just because it's Starwars.
     
  16. Cosmo_Kramer

    Cosmo_Kramer Jedi Youngling star 1

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    George Lucas' imagination has a name and it's called "Industrial Light And Magic".
     
  17. Durwood

    Durwood Jedi Master star 5

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    The people who bash are only ruining it for themselves. Let the windbags blow. It really doesn't bother me.
     
  18. Pooja

    Pooja Jedi Knight star 6

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    Looks at bashers

    Sucks to be you!
     
  19. guittarjedi

    guittarjedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah right,ILM hired Lucas to pose as a figurehead for the intricate mythology that a bunch of computer programmers came up with(sarcasm).
     
  20. Super_Nation_Jock

    Super_Nation_Jock Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Darthwolfie's original post made my day.
    :) well said.
     
  21. Import_Jedi

    Import_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well im sure "Import_Jedi" loves him
    with 5,083 posts

    u cant deny it



    No, I posted that much because I love all of you wonderful people. [face_mischief] [face_laugh]
     
  22. Greedos_a_bad_shot

    Greedos_a_bad_shot Jedi Youngling star 1

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    guittarjedi, ILM designs all the Starcraft, Sithlords, Jedi,weapons, etc, that you see in the PT. I agree with Cosmo_Kramer that the true wizards of the PT are ILM.
     
  23. Diogonese

    Diogonese Jedi Youngling star 2

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    ...Get off Lucas' back? Why? There appears to be plenty of room there. I have to admit, for all it's weak points, AOTC was largely enjoyable. But let's face it, it could have been MUCH better. The Star Wars films started out with such promise. Lucas was painting a grand canvas when he did ANH and ESB. Unfortunatly, by the time ROTJ and TPM rolled around, he was using finger paints.
     
  24. Pooja

    Pooja Jedi Knight star 6

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    But let's face it, it could have been MUCH better.

    I'd kinda like to know how.
     
  25. DrEvazan

    DrEvazan Jedi Youngling star 4

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    "But let's face it, it could have been MUCH better.

    I'd kinda like to know how."

    youve obviously read hundreds of peoples criticisms and suggestions on that subject.

    if you and GL choose to ignore them or cant come up with anything better thats your problem.

    as lucas once said about a sequence in ESB that gary kurtz and irwin kershner thought needed fixing... "it's good enough"

    im glad AOTC and TPM are "good enough" for you. sorry to break it to ya but they are not "good enough" for everyone.
     
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