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GL vs. HC take on how the Tusken Raider confession scene should have been done

Discussion in 'Attack of the Clones' started by JediGirl1, Jun 17, 2002.

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  1. JediGirl1

    JediGirl1 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Okay. This is my first post.....please be kind!

    I bought the June edition of Arena Magazine (British) and in it is a great interview with Hayden. Of particular interest was when the interviewer asked him what kind of direction GL offered to him on this crucial scene.

    HC: "This was one scene where George and I were in conflict as to how it should be played. He wanted me to play it much stronger and not break down and show any real emotion until the very, very end and I was like - I don't know if I can do this, because the way I had been justifying playing these younger and more naive situations was the fact I had this scence coming up. It was very important for me that be breaks down and re-tells it in a really childish manner to justify his young sensibilities. His not breaking down wouldn't justify all those qualities. Because after he had done this horrific thing, how he explains it, and how he displays his immature qualities was very important to me. And so I compromised a little bit and he compromised a little bit and it was sort of a melding of the two, which was really neat, to have this sharing with him".

    I feel that the scene was played out correctly and that showing his emotions added to Anakin's immaturity in the movie. Showing no emotion would not have flown correctly with the way the character was played throughout the beginning of the movie.

    Any other thoughts or comments?
     
  2. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Interesting...
     
  3. Obi-Wan2001

    Obi-Wan2001 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thank God that George compromised with Hayden. It was very important that Anakin break down and show real emotion.
     
  4. ADONIAH32

    ADONIAH32 Jedi Master star 4

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    JediGirl1, welcome to the board! :)

    Yes, the scene was done just right. I don't think it could have been done better, as it conveyed the emotions perfectly.
     
  5. Fitten trim

    Fitten trim Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I have many problems with the movie, but the confession scene is tied with Yoda's fight as a highlight for me.
     
  6. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think it's good for people to know that GL has these kinds of interactions with his actors. I didn't completely buy the scene from a character/dramatic viewpoint, but it's good to know that Hayden and George both thought about it and talked it out.
     
  7. JohnWilliams00

    JohnWilliams00 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I still don't understand what HC is getting at...that's one awkwardly structured and rambling quote. He must've been drunk.

    I think what he was trying to say (after having to read the quote 3 times) was that he wanted to play that scene with him breaking up from the very beginning, rather than slowly building as a crescendo.
     
  8. Shelley

    Shelley Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I'm glad Lucas compromised too; the scene is much more effective with Anakin breaking down and showing emotion.

    Kinda deflates the oft-stated myths that Lucas doesn't listen to suggestions and doesn't interact with the performers.
     
  9. DarthKnight

    DarthKnight Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Lucas should put out a Rated R version of Star Wars and put a gang load of blood and slaughtering etc..etc.. Call it, Star Wars Killer Edition. :D
     
  10. Pooja

    Pooja Jedi Knight star 6

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    Okay. This is my first post.....please be kind!

    That's a sign, members of this board.
     
  11. Shelley

    Shelley Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I still don't understand what HC is getting at...that's one awkwardly structured and rambling quote. He must've been drunk.

    That's not a very nice thing to say. I understood it just fine, and perhaps he found it hard to articulate exactly what he felt.

    I think what he was trying to say (after having to read the quote 3 times) was that he wanted to play that scene with him breaking up from the very beginning, rather than slowly building as a crescendo.

    It seemed to me that while Lucas didn't want Anakin to show any emotion until the very end, Hayden wanted Anakin to break down at the beginning. They compromised, with Anakin steadily showing more emotion as the confession went on, and then finally breaking down.
     
  12. Oakessteve

    Oakessteve Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm glad George compromised to, as I think Anakin's confession scene is not only one of the best acted scenes in the whole of the Saga, but also one of my favourite too, and if he had shown no emotional at all, there'd be no way of connecting, or sympathising with the anguish Anakin is going through at that moment. Anyhow, it's a good job George is finally taking suggestions from his actors :p.
     
  13. Luke_Clone

    Luke_Clone Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't know about you guys, but my respect for both people, George and Hayden just went up a few notches. Hayden even more so.

    Now, if only Hayden would advise George on the inevitable lightsaber fight between himself and Ewan. Please, George listen to the kid! :D
     
  14. DarthHomer

    DarthHomer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That scene left me speechless the first time I saw it, and everytime I've seen it since I feel a deathly silence fall over the audience and some of the mothers with young kids are visibly disturbed.
    True story :)
     
  15. PadmeLeiaJaina

    PadmeLeiaJaina Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    My guess is that he's referring to the "I killed them" moment in the scene. Lucas probably wanted him to be full of hate when he said it.

    It's actually brilliant that GL caved because that moment ultimately seals the drama of the whole scene, when he's staring at his hands in horror, but turns around, faces Padme, filled w/ hate. I remember reading that GL and the whole team were silent after the scene was finished..they all had tears in their eyes. That shows a lot of maturity on Hayden's end. I thought the quote to be facinating- thanks JediGirl1
     
  16. Luke_Clone

    Luke_Clone Jedi Padawan star 4

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    DarthHomer, I've had a similar experience. In fact on my seventh viewing (DLP he he) a little child actually said, "I don't like this part, Mommy."
     
  17. Darth_Imran

    Darth_Imran Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I doubt that anyone could have done that scene better than hayden. he was crying, he was sad, he was full hate and anger. he also broke down.

    Natalie said in an interview, that after that scene everyone was silent, and was about to start crying. She also stated that everyone was saying that a "star was being born". This shows that hayden is a very good actor

    I think for this reason people should stop with the hayden-acting-bashing.

     
  18. Shelley

    Shelley Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Anyhow, it's a good job George is finally taking suggestions from his actors.

    What, is there evidence of him refusing to take suggestions on previous occasions?
     
  19. Bresson

    Bresson Jedi Youngling star 3

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    You wonder if critics who bashed the movie for not having heart and soul and full of bad acting, actually saw this scene. I have an image of Roger Ebert in line for fifteen minutes at the snack bar loading up on Goobers then taking his seat as R2-D2 delivers the message from Obi.
     
  20. Darth_Imran

    Darth_Imran Jedi Padawan star 4

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    bresson;

    I'm with you. I never listen to ANY critic, because they only like what they are piad to like, or supposed to like. They think that spiderman has "excellent acting and action, where as AOTC has crapy acting, with rubish cgi action".

    I somtimes wonder if they watched the same film as me. I also wonder why people are being to lose the part of their brain which alows them to think and have an imagination.

    Sorry, but these CRITICS really got p****d off when they began to bash AOTC, natalie and hayden. it was like they read a shopping list for 2 hours, and thought it was AOTC.




     
  21. Oakessteve

    Oakessteve Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Err...Shelley, I was only joking. That's why I put the :p thingy there. And I was one of those people who said that George never takes any suggestions from his actors, so really, I was making fun of myself. Anyhow, it's a good scene, in either case.
     
  22. Sbuck143

    Sbuck143 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Further evidence of how good HC's acting was in that scene....you can see it in Natalie's face. Right after Anakin says he'll learn to stop people from dying, it cuts to a close up of Natalie's face, and the look she has is quite possibly the most emotional look she has in the entire PT to this point. She is afraid, and *looks* like she has chills up her spine from what Anakin is saying. She gasps out a whispered, cautious, scared "Anakin...".

    That scene is by far my favorite of the entire SW saga. I can't imagine it done any other way.
     
  23. Shelley

    Shelley Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Sorry, Oakessteve, I didn't mean to sound harsh, I was actually asking an honest question. :)
     
  24. Darthkarma

    Darthkarma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This is great. We rarely get much background info on George's interaction with actors. Sounds like a good compromise was reached which resulted in a great scene.
     
  25. jedi-jeff

    jedi-jeff Jedi Master star 3

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    JediGirl1

    This is a great thread for your first post.

    I liked the idea of HC showing such emotion in that scene. That scene was more effective.
     
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