JCC God Exists.

Discussion in 'Community' started by Rogue_Ten, Jun 3, 2013.

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God Exists.

yes 51 vote(s) 40.5%
no 40 vote(s) 31.7%
nnnnnNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!! 22 vote(s) 17.5%
dunno 35 vote(s) 27.8%
no curr 5 vote(s) 4.0%
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  1. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    Well, his real innovation this time was providing fuel to make this thing self-sustaining. Most big "argument" threads flare out after a cycle or too. Here, though Rogue has managed to make a sort of atheist flagship thread that people sustain with news stories and links in-between the huge conflagrations between theists and atheists that keep happening here because it's not actually a clearly identified "home base" thread of the nature that would encourage opposing sides to just leave one another alone.
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  2. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    *exorcises atheist demons from thread*
  3. Juliet316 Chosen One

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    You mean this ghost @tom?

    [IMG]
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  4. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    On further consideration, the seeds of this are actually seen in Even's title to the Breaking Bad thread. The issue is that we have an ironically titled thread that people take both ironically and unironically, and then explode into displeasure about when their expectations aren't met in the actual content.
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  5. Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus

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    It's frankly Shakespearean in the extravagant way it calls attention to its own theatricality while taking immense satisfaction in knowing that we'll be sucked in to the drama anyway. Sort of the JC version of the mock trial scene in the Merchant of Venice or how seventh graders are taught that "Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears" is an example of persuasive speech.
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  6. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    We are all children in the hands of a giant.
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  7. tom Chosen One

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    no, i meant charlie brown's ridiculous ghost costume into which he cut way too many holes. there's a picture of it right there in the post you quoted.
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  8. Juliet316 Chosen One

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    Gotta admit though, Willow's the better looking ghost.:p
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  9. tom Chosen One

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    better looking than a balding 7 year old covered in a sheet? i think not.
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  10. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    you are all too kind. just remember, everything i do... i do it for you
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  11. LostOnHoth Chosen One

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    Isn't all of America a "free speech" zone? :p According to the article American Atheists did in fact commence legal proceedings to have that Ten Commandments monument declared unconstitutional on the grounds that it violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The construction of the 'atheist' monument was the resolution of the dispute via mediation. The Supreme Court has ruled inconsistently on whether 'Ten Commandments' type monuments erected on government land violate the First Amendment so this was a compromise. All of this nonsense has nothing to do with atheism per se and everything to do with certain atheist groups "standing up for their rights" under the Constitution by maintaining what they consider to be "the wall of separation" between church and state. I guess the strategy is to legally challenge the constitutional validity of certain religious monuments with a view to having them removed, but where that looks likely to fail, then push for an 'atheist' monument so that it does not appear to the casual observer that the state is favouring religion over non-religion or one religion over another. I think the 'atheism' part is actually secondary to the main objective which appears to be all about upholding the Establishment Clause in the First Amendment.
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  12. Champion of the Force Force Ghost

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    [IMG]
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  13. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    yes, that is the reference i was making. thanks
  14. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Oh, because it's also a Bryan Adams song!
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  15. EvilQ Jedi Master

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    You're correct that people will believe what they want to believe, which is why religion, politics, snake oil and other forms of con-artistry have historically been so successful, but merely wanting to believe in something does not justify actually believing in it.
  16. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    @EvilQ you cant tell me its not worth fighting for
  17. Sum-Wan Jedi Grand Master

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    "God exists"

    So does Santa Claus and Easter Bunny then...
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  18. TOSCHESTATION Force Ghost

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    Trollie-molla-rolla.....


    ....and NOT wanting to believe in something does not justify not believing in it.



    Don't forget "Pink Unicorns" and The FSM, while you're at it. You're slacking. [face_shame_on_you]

    Helping atheists with their 'arguments' is fun....
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  19. LostOnHoth Chosen One

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    Allah exists, the One True God. All the rest are phonies.
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  20. TOSCHESTATION Force Ghost

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    Didn't see that coming at all.

    (end sarcasm)

    Do atheists/skeptics not know the difference between the generic and specific?

    Generic - for example, 'god'. Specific - for example, 'Allah'
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  21. LostOnHoth Chosen One

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    No, atheists are inferior beings incapable of grasping simple facts. Nevertheless, it is True that there is only One True God.
  22. Sum-Wan Jedi Grand Master

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    Don't forget "Pink Unicorns" and The FSM, while you're at it. You're slacking. [face_shame_on_you]

    Helping atheists with their 'arguments' is fun....[/quote]


    I wasn't argumenting anything.... just stating the very reality of the existence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny..
    Feel free to believe in whatever you want cause I will keep on believing in what I know.
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  23. ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio

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    There is no evidence for one true god, but there is plenty for many fake ones.
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  24. Sum-Wan Jedi Grand Master

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    Replace atheists for christians, muslims, jews, etc... and I will be in total agreement with you...
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  25. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    If the abode of the afterlife in the providence of God is for you alone, and not others of mankind, then wish for death if it is so!
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