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[GOOOOOO SCIENCE!] Faster-than-speedlight may be possible, after all!

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by MandalorianDuchess, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. MandalorianDuchess

    MandalorianDuchess Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yes, [link=http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/09/22/world/europe/AP-EU-Breaking-Light-Speed.html?]according to this.[/link]

    If neutrinos can travel faster than the speed of light, then I guess anything's possible. [face_thinking]
     
  2. DantheJedi

    DantheJedi Jedi Master star 5

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    OH YEAH BABY!

    This is what I'm talking about!

    Somebody get started on a warp-drive engine STAT!
     
  3. Chewgumma

    Chewgumma Force Ghost star 7

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    [image=http://cooldesktopbackgroundsx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/The-Normandy.jpg]

    One step closer my darling.[face_love]
     
  4. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We're going to need a new $100 billion collider to really get to the bottom of this.
     
  5. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Interesting. More than likely this will come out as an anomlie or a fault and not an example of FTL. Still:

    Gillies told The Associated Press that the readings have so astounded researchers that they are asking others to independently verify the measurements before claiming an actual discovery.

    "They are inviting the broader physics community to look at what they've done and really scrutinize it in great detail, and ideally for someone elsewhere in the world to repeat the measurements," he said Thursday.

    Scientists at the competing Fermilab in Chicago have promised to start such work immediately.



    That is a very important paragraph.

     
  6. Im_just_guessing

    Im_just_guessing Jedi Knight star 7

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    Is it important because its the first time science reporting has come close to accurately relaying what the scientists told the reporters?
     
  7. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Force Ghost star 8

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    Now I have Ray Of Light stuck in my head.
     
  8. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 8

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    If three weeks later there isn't a perfectly normal explanation to this I'll eat vegetables.
     
  9. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 8

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    And there was me thinking Einstein had made faultless predictions. Only goes to show, nothing in science is certain
     
  10. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    This.


    Except I'll eat vegetables anyway because I like them.:p
     
  11. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 8

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    Weirdo :p
     
  12. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Eh. If true, it'd be a big deal for scientists but people are being stupid about it.
     
  13. DarthHutt

    DarthHutt Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This will likely have a larger impact on the creation of a cold fusion reactor than actual FTL travel.
     
  14. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    Faster-than-speedlight

    Would that be a [link=http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product-Archive/Flashes/4801/SB-800-AF-Speedlight-.html]Nikon Speedlight?[/link]
     
  15. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 8

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    Agree.

    [link=http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/22/faster-than-light-travel-discovered-slow-down-folks/]Here's a nice piece about not going overboard with this just yet.[/link]
     
  16. Lady_Sami_J_Kenobi

    Lady_Sami_J_Kenobi Jedi Master star 6

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    The speed was measured in nanoseconds. Nanoseconds! Looks like we won't be going to plaid any time soon.

    But, it is interesting...
     
  17. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Subatomic particles = spaceships



    Yawn.
     
  18. Kiki-Gonn

    Kiki-Gonn Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Oh please, scientists can't even figure out if water is good or bad for kidney stones yet.
     
  19. hear+soul

    hear+soul Jedi Master star 6

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  20. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    [image=http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20090830.gif]
     
  21. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    They've found things before that they thought were going "faster than light," only to find out years later that it wasn't true. It will probably turn out the same way with this.
     
  22. duende

    duende Jedi Master star 5

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    seems a bit suspect.
     
  23. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, they've found things travel faster than light through some ridiculously viscous thing. So, yes, you can slow light down enough that other things travel faster than it but that's different from traveling faster than what the speed of light in a vacuum would be.
     
  24. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 8

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    A theory being thrown around now is the whole thing of extra dimensions, which the particles could use as a shortcut to get to the destination faster than expected. These dimensions are not detectable with current technology, so we don't register it. It may well be that the particles used mini-wormholes.

    After all, surely arriving before you left is impossible....
     
  25. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 8

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    [link=http://static.arxiv.org/pdf/1109.4897.pdf]Here's the preprint of the official paper.[/link]

    It's friday night, so I only did a cursory reading of it. The first part is just an explanation of their detector, which is interesting if you want to find out how detectors work. You get to the good stuff starting on section 3. Their methods seem sound upon first glance and their statistical significance of 6 sigma is definitely powerful.

    I'm still skeptical though. That whole supernova stuff in 1987.