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Most likely that's when it first appeared with the new title, but it had to have the subtitle when ESB came out, correct?

...which started as "Episode II" and was produced and shot as such only to become "Episode V" prior to its release.

 

A question about AT-AT deployment. During TESB, at the Battle of Hoth, the empire deploys AT-AT "snow walkers" onto the surface. How do they get there? The old EU lists Y-85 Titan dropships as one method, although they are too big to fit in the hangar bay of a Star Destroyer, they carry 4 walkers, but can only fit in the largest hangar bays. There is also the smaller Theta class dropship (Star Wars Commander) which can carry one AT-AT with legs folded. These can fit in a Star Destroyer hangar, but are a poor option tactically. Finally there is the Gozanti class transport. MINOR REBELS SPOILER: They have been shown to be able to carry 2 AT-AT's externally, on the underside docking clamps. Does anyone know if any of the Nucanon, or any other current source, states the method used at Hoth?

 

It does.

Battlefront- Twilight Company has Gozanis bringing AT-AT walkers in (AT-STs, Juggernauts and floating platforms are also present on the Imperial side and were probably brought in on freighters too)


Complete Locations (newcanon-updated version) mentions the Titan dropships and their ability to carry 4 AT-ATs + 4 AT-STs, but also, that Veers:

"decides against using the Titans at Hoth, wary that Rebel starfighters will swarm them before Blizzard Force can land outside the shield perimeter. Instead, he calls on the task force's more agile Gozanti-class freighters. Escorted by TIEs, these freighters carry two AT-ATs at a time, clasping the walkers with their powerful ventral docking clamps."

Presumably, AT-STs are carried the same way as AT-DPs in Rebels are - up to 4 at a time.

 

Thanks Iron Lord for the quick response. I guess that's pretty conclusive, and it's good to hear that they are covering details like this.

 

I do not know where to post, but the scene of the destruction of Alderaan would be greater:

 

At the occassion I feel compelled to point out that Joe Johnston (in the preface of the SW Storyboards book) had the urge to communicate how much he dislikes "AT-AT" and prefers snow walkers, instead. You are one of the first who at least added "snow walker" after "AT-AT".

Add to this that Leia said in this (deleted) scene: "And you call yourself humans." That would have really a human element in here.

 

The junior novelization The Princess, The Scoundrel, & The Farmboy includes that scene - as "And you call yourself human".

 

Also exists this:

I think this could be the movie of the saga, with more deleted scenes.

 

Since I don't read any EU I don't have any "official" info either. But I remember that I had also wondered as a kid how the AT-AT got there, since we don't get to see other large Imperial ships other than star destroyers. In THEORY, could a tractor beam of some sort have been used? After all it can not only pull a ship in but also guide it precisely into a hangar for a smooth landing, as happened with the "Falcon". Could not a tractor beam from a star destroyer have been used to place the AT-AT directly on the surface? It's just an idea, without any basis in any canon or EU material.

 

Tractor beams are generally short ranged - to do that, the Star destroyer would need to be only a short distance above the ground, like in Rogue One.

 

Not to put too fine a point on it, Iron_lord, but the tractor beam in ANH was projected on the Falcon while the DS was still too small to really say it was a space station. OB1 had finished saying "That's no moon." and saying to get out of there. Han says, yep, let's go. By that point, they were toast.

 

True - but the Death Star is a whole lot bigger than a Star Destroyer is, and can have much longer-ranged tractor beams.

 

Meh... possibly. As I said, I didn't want to put too fine a point on it. * shoves geek card under a stack of papers * As you were.

 

We do see tractor beams used by a Star Destroyer in atmosphere in the Smuggler's Run novel. There were problems - risk of damaging ground installations resulted in them not being able to use it adequately, and thus, the Millennium Falcon getting away.

On the other hand, in Rebels, they manage to tractor a Corvette, low above a city, without making a mess of the city in the process - so maybe it could work - just, not from orbit.

 

Question: Does anyone else remember the 90s EU referring to Darth Vader as "Lord Darth Vader"?

I suspect this usage was discarded after Episode I came out, and "Darth" became a title rather than the first name of Anakin Skywalker's alter ego. From that point on, in Sith terms it'd be like calling him "Darth Darth Vader".

 

It appears in the Zahn books at least. Not sure which book was the last to use the term.

 

That makes sense. But what I meant was that a SD tractor beam wouldn't have had to pull the AT-AT up from the surface, it would just have to be powerful enough to counteract Hoth's gravity enough for them to land safely, just slow them down a little, much like parachutes are used for space capsules to make a smoother impact on the sea surface. The SD could then (after the battle was over) move close enough to the surface to retrieve the AT-AT. Like I said, it was just a thought.

 

Not really. Darth is a Sith forename, not a title. Every Darth has the title of Lord.

 

So did the EU keep using that particular phrasing after Episode I came out, then?

 

In the battle between Vader and Luke in ROTJ, is Vader just admnistring the battle for some specific reason (for some will of the force, I don't know) or he just too weak to fight against Luke? I mean, in most part of the battle he just look a old man fighting, and before Luke cut off his hand he practically falls alone. I mean, he is Vader, the chosen one.

Can anyone give me a answer to this?

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He is an old man fighting. That's what Vader became decades ago. Him being the chosen one doesn't change that. It only means he was destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force.

 

You've got to realize that by this point, Vader is a 47-year-old quadriplegic hooked up with an iron lung and other circuitry that keeps him alive. He's also torn between either killing his own son, or having his son kill him and join the Dark Side...and the confusion of trying to get back to the Light. He's got a lot on his mind.

 

Sorry to bring up this long dead subject but I am one of many who swears that seeing a scene in Star Wars with Luke at the chasm throwing his grappling hook and missing the first time, then throwing it again before swinging across with Leia.

It was suggested that this scene may have been on the CED Videodisc version of Star Wars or part of Microsoft's Cinemania CDs released in the 90s. My parents had a RCA CED videodisc player and we had a copy of Star Wars. I took the time to setup the old player and view the CED and sadly the scene was not there. I also had Microsoft Cinemaina on an old PC as a teen. I no longer have those CDs. So I went out and found copies of Microsoft Cinemania 94, 95, and 96 and setup dosbox on a PC and installed Windows 3.1 to view CM94-95 and Windows 95 to view CM96. The missing grappling hook scene was not on these either. I still swear I saw this somewhere. Where else could I have seen this? I did read the novelization a few times over the years, so maybe my mind is just playing tricks on me. I don't know, maybe I am just crazy.