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Full Series Grade The Episode 2.05: "Always Two There Are" (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by TheSilentInfluence, Oct 28, 2015.

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Grade the Episode

Poll closed Nov 4, 2015.
  1. 10

    13.0%
  2. 9

    18.2%
  3. 8

    32.5%
  4. 7

    18.2%
  5. 6

    11.7%
  6. 5

    2.6%
  7. 4

    1.3%
  8. 3

    2.6%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Jun 10, 2014
    Yea, I just read your reply above mine, I was posting as you made it. It's cool.
     
  2. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Awesome thanks. I appreciate that.
     
  3. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    Feb 19, 2015
    I give it an 8/10. I am really liking this season so far. Not as much banter between the characters but it feels like things are moving a long at a very good pace and they are sticking to the main story at hand.
     
  4. moonjump05

    moonjump05 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Dec 14, 2013
    Low 6/10

    SS and music were good, Kanan ruined the rest.
     
  5. Davak24

    Davak24 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Jul 15, 2015
    3/10

    I don't care about Ezra. Or these new inquisitors either.

    I sincerely hope there will be more Kanan and Hera episodes soon.
     
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  6. daniel brown

    daniel brown Jedi Knight star 3

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    Apr 23, 2015
    8/10
    Solid plot and interesting new inquisitors.
     
  7. thatotherjedi

    thatotherjedi Jedi Knight star 2

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    Jun 6, 2015
    + New Inquisitors. I dig the new Inquisitors, together both represent the two halves of Vader. The brother has the physicality/menacing, the Sister the wit and the plan which makes for a good villain....

    - The characterization of the Sister isn't consistent. At one point she is offering to teach Ezra the way of the Force, the next moment she just wants to kill him...

    - The physical comedy in the episode sags at times. For example, Ezra pulling a crate down on top of Zeb...not cool even if he nails his head in the next frame.

    + Creepy abandoned space station, call back to Clone Wars...

    - Pace: Sags at times... Too much of Chopper stumbling around, less than effective action set pieces, I was really underwhelmed at Zeb/Sabine vs. Brother.....

    This episode has the feel of a story-building, formulating the set pieces that will be used in later episodes....

    But as a stand-alone episode I would give it a 6/10.
     
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  8. queenofhollywood

    queenofhollywood Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Oct 11, 2015
    5/10
    The plot was a bit eh. Loved the music and the Inquisitors together at the end. I'm looking forward to some more serious episodes. These are a bit juvenile for me. If I were judging it as a kids show, I'd rate it higher. But this is supposed to serve a wider audience and it's not totally convincing me. I want to see more Hera and Kenan in action. And Kenan and Ezra working together like the Inquisitors did. And I do enjoy Sabine's obsession with bombs.
     
  9. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Oct 28, 2014
    I gave it a 7/10. Many of these Rebels episodes start off with such silly, kiddie-style humor it's difficult to take them as seriously as we would the movies or even TCW. The antagonists always seem to wind up falling for the same made-up name gag. I did appreciate the female Inquisitor's sneaky, conniving attitude. There wasn't much action, but I guess the main point of this episode was merely to introduce the two new characters. I'm looking forward to seeing them in action.
     
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  10. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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    8/10 mainly because of the atmosphere of this episode and the music [face_love]
    Ezra is still annoying as always and now he is starting to be all "I'm becoming more powerful every day", ugh
    I was glad Zeb finally accomplished something beside being the comic relief
    and Chopper is still being awesome but what did that droid do to him, are they using Chopper to find the rebels ?

    The inquisitors seems to be competent for now, especially Buffy but I liked what Sharky did with Sabine's bombs, let's wait and see for how long will it last...
    I loved hearing Konstantine and Kallus questioning the points of the inquisitor.
     
  11. sarlaccsaurs-rex

    sarlaccsaurs-rex Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    For the complaints about a lack of Kanan and Hera, I agree they have been taking a backseat lately and I really wish they were more prominent in the show .
     
  12. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I feel like once we get to know more of the backstory on Hera, they'll probably have more Kanera scenes. Kanan could comfort Hera for example if she misses her home or they can talk about what family means to them for example.
     
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  13. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Nov 1, 2012
    6/10.

    Seventh Sister is very creepy and done very well. Fifth Brother (or whatever) is obviously canon fodder for Ahsoka. WTF at the Inquisitor of season one being the Grand Inquisitor, but happy to see Inquisitorius is now canon. Zeb is still tedious and I'd prefer to have him killed off quickly so we can move forward. After skipping the episodes with the clones, I'm annoyed to see Rex is *still* apart of the show. Jeez, kill the clones off already Dave *shakes fist*

    Ezra is more or less a poor man's Anakin. Kanan seems to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown. IMHO, Sabine should become the leader of the group - her character has grown and matured very quickly. More so than Ezra.
     
  14. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sep 3, 2012
    Pretty good episode
     
  15. Rax

    Rax Jedi Master star 3

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    8/10

    What did I like about this episode?

    * I liked the "Grand Inquisitor" reveal.
    * Alittle excitement.
    * Zeb handling this situation about them being captured
    * The two new inquisitors

    Wasn't a revealing episode kind of, not many surprises. Still though, an enjoyable episode.
     
  16. moonjump05

    moonjump05 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Dec 14, 2013
    Well, Hera sure.

    Kanan though needs to get in the backseat and stay there awhile so that the other Ghost crew members can get some spotlight.
     
  17. sbk1234

    sbk1234 Jedi Knight star 1

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    An alright episode. I did like how the old clone really put Kanan in his place, as well as a reference made that Kanan never even finished his own training.
     
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  18. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 5

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    9. A solid episode

    Zeb showing some character arc
    inquisitors revealed, their characters displayed (SS = creepy,methodical, FB = arrogant,impulsive)
    Rex butting heads with Kanan
    Ezra trying to save Sabine
    the atmosphere and a fitting soundtrack for it
     
  19. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Any episode that features the Inquisitors' lightsabers' godly sound effects is an instant 10 in my book. It's like earporn.

    In fact, a lot of the lightsabers in Rebels have really cool sound design. I also really enjoyed the soundtrack to this episode, really amped up the creepy vibes.

    Chopper and Zeb were the heroes of this episode, they provided good humour to offset the ordeals Ezra and Sabine went through. And I also enjoyed the banter, but Rebels has always had great banter between the main cast.
     
  20. Senator Kelberry

    Senator Kelberry Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Going with a 9/10 for this one. Arguably going to be one of my favorites of the new season.
     
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  21. Jensaarai-defender

    Jensaarai-defender Jedi Master star 1

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    About the Seventh Sister...I'm scaroused.
    The only thing that really stood out to me was how the Seventh Sister was behaving towards Ezra. I can't remember the last time I saw somebody, especially a female character behave in predatory towards as male and have it played for anything other than comedy or black comedy.
     
  22. KyloSolo

    KyloSolo Jedi Padawan

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    Sep 25, 2015
    I won't say much since most of it has already been said, I'll just say the part that really struck me about the episode.
    The moment at the end when Kanan learns that are multiple Inquisitors and that they had knowledge of Ahsoka's whereabouts was incredible to me. The true look of worry and fear on his face, plus his "We really don't know what we're up against."
    This reinforces what many have been saying about this season, that this is the "Empire Strikes Back" of this show, I truly believe that dark things are going to happen to these characters, and the events of this episode made me believe that even more.
     
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  23. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    9/10: really enjoyed this one, looking forward to seeing more of these Inquisitors
     
  24. La Calavera

    La Calavera Force Ghost star 4

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    Sep 2, 2015
    6/10
    It was alright. I liked the music, the environment, the colors, and Zeb was allowed to shine this time. Rex and Kanan bickering was fun. There were a couple of moments with the Inquisitors that I liked, but that lousy escape was really a let down.
     
  25. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The 7th Sister's theme seemed very similar to Ninth Gate Movie Soundtrack by Wojciech Kilar.