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TCW Episode Grade the Episode: S05E09: A Necessary Bond

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Seerow, Dec 2, 2012.


CW Grade the Episode: S05E09

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  1. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Jun 7, 2011
    Sorry about the delay with this thread!

    You guys know the drill.

    Poll results are available by clicking on the number of votes next to each score.

    That being said, we'd still prefer you to post with your score and what you liked and disliked
  2. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

    Sep 3, 2012
    Awesome episode, the battle was amazing and so was the duel between Grievous and Ahsoka

  3. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

    Aug 2, 2009
    2/10, less interesting than the keyboard I'm typing this on.
  4. hlc88

    hlc88 Jedi Master star 4

    Sep 3, 2012
    Brilliant episode to end a fantastic arc! 10/10!
  5. Orrelios

    Orrelios Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Feb 21, 2005
    I really liked this episode and thought it was a nice one to wrap up the Young Jedi arc with; the animation and action was really good, Hondo was great as he usually is (and nice to have him face Grievous for the first time on the show) and the highlight was probably Ahsoka vs. Grievous, with some help from Hondo in his Firespray-class ship at the end, which was a solid one. I also really liked how Hondo showed a more soft side as he formed something of a bond with Katooni; the little bit at the end where they exchanged glances was pretty sweet. It's not a perfect episode (sort of liked the episode before it a little more) but very enjoyable nonetheless. 8/10
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  6. AkashKedavra_93

    AkashKedavra_93 Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Jan 8, 2011
    Great, great, great episode! One of the best arc endings there is!

    +Pirate chase was very well done in terms of scale and scape as well, even if it was a minute or so lengthier than it needed to be
    +Hondo as usual was hilarious
    +Grievous was actually threatening, they've been on a roll with him since Massacre
    +The younglings were great
    +There was something oddly endearing about Hondo helping Katooni build her lightsaber
    +The pirates/younglings versus battle droids was awesome, even if it was a tad bit too brief
    +Ahsoka versus Grievous was brilliant, loved the choreography, especially Ahsoka's constant aiming for Grievous's lower torso and Grievous's wheel-spin manuever
    +Huyang/R2 had great pairing, well done with the choice of David Tennant I must say, well done!
    +Yoda's lightsaber adventure? This just makes me want the show to catch up with Huyang again!

    Overall, a 10/10. Kudos to the TCW team for another solid arc. Brilliance it was!
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  7. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Sep 24, 2004
    I was going to take off a point for the oddly convenient plot device of Grievous wanting to confiscate all of Hondo's stuff for salvage, but that seems to be a very minor quibble compared to the well-done chase scenes - and the pirates battling droids - and Hondo's pitch-perfect characterization - and especially the great battle between Ahsoka and Grievous - all which give me no choice but to rate this: 10/10.
    Easily one of my favorite episodes!
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  8. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

    Oct 16, 2008
    Lol, poll title is off. *cough* Seerow *cough*

    This episode was decent. What I really liked was Grievous being efficient and even a little scary (his spider-walk thing). But mostly I liked the character development here. I'm definitely all for Huyang and think he works well as an instructor for younger Jedi, despite being a droid. I especially loved Hondo's development, with that look he gives Katooni at the end. He really is a good guy! That little exchange reminded me a lot of Long John Silver and Jim Hawkins from Treasure Island (or Treasure Planet if you prefer).

    8/10. Could have been better, but was still a decent conclusion nonetheless.
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  9. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Jun 7, 2011
    Fixed, well since I'm here its time to play devils advocate again:

    This episode was frankly weaker than the previous two in the arc. I watched the entire arc together before tackling this one which was probably a mistake. This episode dragged and the big Grievous invasion seemed anticlimatic. Only Petro and Katooni developed over the course. In this episode particularly, the other younglings were just shoved into the background and didn't do much which bothered me. I did enjoy the invasion and Grievous's fight with Ahsoka was awesome. This arc provided some good character growth for Ahsoka, new character Huyang, and most of all Hondo. Hondo was the most interesting man in the Galaxy (Stay thirsty my friends) and his interactions with Katooni were sweet. She should have just gone with him. The ending shot was the coolest in the series.

    I'll give this episode a 7/10. Enjoyed it over all but a few weak points and I felt let down by the arc.
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  10. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

    Sep 16, 2005
    I think I'm a Seerow clone - I gave it a 7 and I agree with her reasoning. In fact, I've "liked" a lot of her posts lately.
  11. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

    Jan 5, 2011
    • Sweet droid invasion.
    • Grievous "You can dispense with the pleasantries" was actually pretty cool. NOTE TO TCW: Stop giving Vader lines to Blander, give them to Wood's mechanical Grievous, they sound so much better.
    • Cool skillz for the Younglings.
    • Hondo's "Great...I feel so safe" was funny.
    • Grievous' spider walk.
    • The music that kicked off that final duel was stunning.
    • Jedi Youngling ladder was a bit much.
    • The pirate speeder simply didn't have enough firepower to do the damage it did to the training ship. Later, the AAT shoots the Slave I and does no damage.
    • Apparently Hondo's base can't detect a massive invasion.
    • B1 battle droid ego and power trip was lame.
    • Adi Gallia's daughter magically constructs her lightsaber on the spot, despite failing before.
    • Stupid sound effect during Ahsoka's lame slo-mo jump. Don't ever do that again, TCW.
    • Not a fan of Grievous' bike, I prefer his wheelbike.
    • Speeder bike chase looked like it was on rails at times.
    • Grievous has Ahsoka completely helpless in his claw, why not just kill her? It would have been easy. DON'T PUT A CHARACTER IN AN EASILY FATAL POSITION UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO KILL THEM. JUST DON'T.
    • Ahsoka was shoehorned in this arc, yet received no substantial development. What a waste.
    Despite more complaints than praise, the episode was still relatively entertaining and not a failure. Still a disappointing end to an otherwise awesome arc.

    7/10. My average grade for this arc was 8.5, one of the highest scores I've ever given.

    At the time of this post, which may be a bit early, there were 18 votes with an average score of 8.28.
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  12. Senator Kelberry

    Senator Kelberry Jedi Master star 4

    Mar 22, 2010
    We'll finish with a 10/10.

    Was amused by how Katooni magically managed to get her Jedi clothes back considering she left them on the carnival ship.

    Hondo changes his moods at the drop of a hat, it seems. Good thing today he likes kids, otherwise he would've been royally screwed. He stole the entire show at the end trying to make Obi-Wan pay for his losses.

    R2 mouthing off to the battle droid was amusing.
    Glad to see they gave David Tennant more lines. He makes every role worth watching.
    the battle between Ahsoka nad Grievous was tense, and I thought it was kind of funny that he apparently has enough of a spine to howl about how he'll never be beaten while he's at point blank range of Slave I. Too bad he needed to live.

    Overall, I could watch this whole arc over and over again.
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  13. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Sep 24, 2004
    Do you not realize that it was the magically Force-powered pouch at her belt where she could store her clothes and dis-assembled lightsaber for whenever she might need them?! Plus Huyang's arms for when they are eventually going to re-attach them!
  14. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan

    Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Jedi Master star 4

    Sep 3, 2012
    GENIUS episode. Everything was amazing.

    10000 out 10.


    CW Grade the Episode: S05E09: Bound for Rescue !?

    An error I sense...
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  15. Convor

    Convor Jedi Knight star 2

    Feb 25, 2011
    ++Grievous outclassing Ahsoka


  16. Darth_Foo

    Darth_Foo Jedi Master star 4

    Feb 24, 2003
    Took a point off for the scene where Hondo is talking to the jedi and he gives an inspirational speech to Adi Jr. Such a sappy scene, made me thing it was an After School Special.
  17. Dark Lord Tarkas

    Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master star 5

    Apr 29, 2011
    An overall decent episode, but much like Tipping Points, it didn't feel like climax-of-a-4-part-arc material to me at all. I think the chase scene being dragged out to fill the entire first third of the episode was a mistake, and Grievous laughing hysterically - at the fact that he failed to keep his prey from escaping (?) - was nonsensical to the point of being really annoying. The episode before this had him at perhaps his most intimidating of the entire series, but then this took him a notch back down the ladder. The lightsaber duel looked fantastic, though. Hondo at the very end was hilariously classic, and seeing Slave I is always a treat.

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  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Mar 4, 2011
    My son was watching this with me and his comment was, "Ahsoka is too young to fight Grievous."

    TCW writers, take note: 7-year-olds are noticing that you are making Ahsoka's abilities a bit too large for life. (To be fair, he was screaming at her to "RUUUNNN!" back to the ship whereas I was, um, keeping my mouth shut.)

    Not much I liked about this one. I'm still not over the idea of a teenage Padawan being put in charge of younglings on a dangerous mission so that's part of it.

    "Another lightsaber to add to my collection." Didn't Grievous say that in ROTS? Reminds me of the comments in the ROTS spoiler forum about Grievous being a fanboy wet dream. Let's make a cyborg and give him as many lightsabers as he can handle. Sure.

    Hondo was cool, although Hondo getting so excited about watching a kid build a lightsaber was a bit weird.

    2/10, and that's generous.
  19. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

    Jan 5, 2011
    anakinfan, your journey toward the dark side is complete.
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  20. DavidIX

    DavidIX Jedi Knight star 1

    Sep 3, 2012

    Solid episode. Wish the last fight with Grievous and Tano was a little longer. I was also hoping for the Younglings to joing the fight. But overall decent episode.
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  21. kenobifan1999

    kenobifan1999 Jedi Youngling star 1

    Sep 3, 2012

    good episode.... grevious saved the episode, only reason its so high is because of him.

    okay so now for the entire arc

    Youngling ARC: 7.5/10

    without grevious & kenobi, that rating would have been much MUCH lower. overall a bad story arc, however grevious gave the last few episodes some moments to shine.
  22. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Sep 24, 2004
    How old does your son think Ahsoka is vs. how old she actually is?
    Also, it was not a dangerous mission - as in the original mission of obtaining lightsaber crystals. It only became dangerous later on.
  23. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Mar 4, 2011
    He knows how old she is. There is no discrepancy there. And fighting Grievous isn't exactly "obtaining lightsaber crystals."
  24. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Sep 24, 2004
    That's exactly my point. Ahsoka was NOT sent on a mission to fight Grievous. Her "mission" was to chaperone the younglings on their quest for their lightsaber crystals. You claim she was put in charge of a "dangerous mission".
  25. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Mar 4, 2011
    So you're claiming that she didn't fight Grievous? That was my son's point, and mine--she shouldn't fight Grievous and win, much less twice (season 1 as well).

    The original intent of the mission isn't really important. Regardless, having a teenage Padawan chaperoning younglings on a "mission" to anywhere past the Temple 'fresher is stupid.