Census Greatest Empire in history

i tend to stick with Augustus for obvious best because he named the game but the one i have the most affection/admiration for is actually Hadrian, as im sure you might suspect

worst i would have to go with one of the dynasty-ending emperors like commodus or nero but i lean towards caracalla because... goddamn, that dude...

 

Re: EDIT 32, are you talking about how unlike your country, the territories of the Empire got involved in the world wars and weren't massive war profiteering cowards who, presumably either because Americans have no shame at all (ever), or because they're so ashamed of their cowardice, have been trying to rewrite the narratives since?

The world hasn't seen a better empire than the British one, nor will it. The size and influence are profound. Even the retarded dialect you guys speak owes its existence to the British. Don't be a churl, even if it is your wont.

 

liked for moxy

btw the guy's name is Matias Vernango. interview in question is here if anyone wants to listen

 

Yeah, once the English got their **** together and managed to unite (under a monarch who actually spoke English) their strategic isolation on the continent was practically giftwrapped for them. Rivals such as the French had large frontiers to defend against other powerful realms such as the HRE. And while their little island encouraged naval development, they still came after the Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, and French in establishing a long-lasting world presence. Pathetic.

 

By pathetic, you mean amazing.

Liked for saying "moxy", Maik.

 

like, i mean, good effort and all, but dont point out your ability to hole up until the americans/soviets/prussians/whoever come to your rescue and then still act like you're the best empire ever

 

Since I'm an ex history minor my argument won't be as strong or detailed, but judging from WWII, Britain actually gave a **** about Europe potentially going down the pooper and they did their damndest to protect while Murica was like "lol k thx bye" towards the Allies until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. "Never wake a sleeping giant" is more like "never irritate an egomaniac". FDR didn't even give a **** about the concentration camps in Germany.

 

Well you know, the lowlands collapsed and because they didn't have the cultural affinity with the US the French had, their resistance and the horror of occupation (being Aryan but not National Socialist tended to mean bad things, like having SS not Wermacht in control) also escaped the historic romanticism Hollywood loves. But it was basically just Britain v Germany until the slumbering beast of the US decided national interest wasn't just to sell **** to both sides.

Think how many lives you guys could have saved by not being bad people.

Also, you cannot pretend that the whole Royal Navy kicking the backsides of France, Spain, Portugal, slavery, piracy etc wasn't amazing. You'd have been just like that Irish agitator Stephen Maturin to my Jack Aubrey.

 

just to be clear the "prussians" part is a reference to the napoleonic wars, not WWII

 

Wimps.

 

Both Munich and American isolationism were mainly due to the fact that people remembered taking part it in a stupid, insanely destructive European war and having no desire to repeat it-- yet that happened anyway (no one in power really cared about the concentration camps until Germany was as good as defeated).

 

We made a choice, though. It was in support of the Crown, not on orders from it.

Wimps.

 

I feel like a nation who has elected Teddy Racistvelt, Ronald Raygun and Dubya has more than made up for it.

 

They're not idiots, though. America elects bona fide morons who are, or aspire to be, plain and blue collar.

You know that the masses can't rule themselves. It's madness.

 

Hey!

 

Go Angevin!

 

I thought he was noble, it was just Plutarch who was probably into his fifth amphora of wine who suggested he came from filthy peasant stock?

 

Why is there no American or African empire to choose from?

 

Because their empires sucked