Guide to the Grand Army (Insider #84)

oh, and I forgot the best reason for the republic to not need a fleet/army: Why built one if hiring the Mandalorian Merc Army was cheaper? ^^ now a story about them hiring Mandos would rule... not only warlords and planetary leaders can hire them.

 

P_S: The Republic's ships were not a military navy, but an anti-pirate security force. Basically a glorified police force in space. The homegrown navies of KDY and Corellia or the corporate fleets of the Techno Union and IBC were more than a match for what the Republic Judicials made use of. In the grand scale of things, ships like CR90 corvettes or Dreadnaughts are quite insignificant when compared to the battleships of KDY. The Judicials followed the same philosophy as the Jedi Order: Keepers of the peace, not soldiers.

*sigh*

And two hundred Katana-class Dreadnaughts designed to operate in synchronized formation are desigend to deal with what sort of pirates, exactly?

S_D: okay... is there any evidence, though, that "Judicial" duties exclude a slightly more proactive military role? I mean, no-one else is doing it...

CH: well, the Dreadnaught Cruiser is meant to be based off a Mando design...

Personally, I can't help feel that if the Mandos knew their cap-ship was being knocked-off by mere police, that would be a war all in itself...

And on that note - should we go elsewhere and discuss this? Sorry for dragging your thread OT with my mini-rant, Karen...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Not in the UK

Only americans are allowed to get the Insider as part of their fan club subscription. We have to make do with the domestic magazine. Which may or may not publish Insider articles... at some point... a bit later.. maybe...

I guess the rest of the world will have to wait until some kind soul scans the article and posts it so we can join in the discussion

Hey, hang on you're in the UK Karen, so how did you get your copy? Oh yes, you wrote the article

Chris

 

I haven't got a copy. Just the PDF file for proof-reading.

And I think this thread is a new TF.N record; three pages from the first post before it gets back onto topic!

 

I can break the record.. shall I? hehe

a pdf version, with pictures? *hopes* hehehe.. do the poor souls favor and accidently email this little pdf. *dreams*

*knows it will never happen and goes singing* Glooory Glooory Mandaloooria...

 

Please do Except I know thats not alowwed but still...

 

of course we would know that it was just an accident and delete it unread so we can wait and buy insider instead *cough cough*

 

It's not spam. It's just...off-topic.



No, I'm not a hypocrite. Whoever told you that was, um, delusional. Anyhoo, any word on whether or not actual recruits from various worlds (Human or near-Human, of course - remember that little hint at Imperial xenophobia from Labyrinth of Evil?) were wearing the white to fill in the clone trooper ranks before the execution of the Separatist Council and the deactivation of the droid armies?

 

I let my subscription to Insider run out but Ive been picking them up at the newsstands ever since. Cant wait to get this one, either. Sounds like one of the better issues in some time.

 

Finally, a question on the article!

What kind of information did you add about vehicles, specifically walkers? And did you add anything from Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns?

 

When do the Insiders go on the stands? I dont really follow them, but I think this one might be worth picking up.

 

Good one...hmm.

 

Not that I'm aware of -- must've been some pretty mean pirate fleets to require 200 Dreadnaughts, though -- but like I said, I haven't read Ms. Traviss' article. 8)

 

info..info..i need info... I thirst for information about the most holy of holy..the GAR
come on some one has to have insider84

 

so do i. im not a subscriber so i have to wait realy long to get it so yea info would be nice people enless it is forbidin by the mods or somthin

 

I've just gone through the PDF (and eight pages in one file is pretty impossible to skim through on screen, by the way) and I don't recall which detail originated where, apart from movies and books, obviously. That's not how I receive the data.

 

For the love of Christ, can someone post some info from the GAR article? E.G. COMMANDERS, LEGIONS, ETC?

As far as this thread is concerned, we really couldn't care less about Katanas, Thrawn, Dreadnaughts etc.!

This is thread hijacking on an obnoxious level!

Get back on topic, ya self-absorbed so-and-so's!!!

*cough* Thrawn McEwok *cough*

 

1) Who said those 200 ships were meant to operate together?
2) Who says, that the Katana-fleet was designed to fight anybody and wasn't just a huge prestige-project to show the advantages of centralized computer-systems and to impress outer rim-systems with a grundge against the NR?

 

Yeah, repel all Fleet Junkie boarders! Stand to!

Folks, the article is just about the Grand Army. That means clone boys, and land forces and air elements in particular. It's not about the fleet. It's only eight pages, for fierfek's sake...

Now get back on topic before we call in Ordo and the lads to sort you out...

 

Lets try this the other way:

Considering the many clones we see aboard naval vessels, is the fleet at the time of the Old Republic part of the GrandArmy (a real live-analogy would be the military of the Peoples Republic of China) or its own arm of service?

 

Okay, let me answer this the other way, then. I have clone warships coming up in Triple Zero. All clone crew, with a Jedi. (For ballast, probably.) So I've given them their own flotilla, at least for what I like to think of as the HMS Fearless role.

 

I'm looking foreward to reading this article.

 

The Chinese PLA also has a naval arm seperate from the PLAN. Mostly for transportation on China's many rivers and the like, along with some gunboats, IIRC.

Put I always figured the GAR to be more equilivalent to the USMC, and the USMC has its own amphibious carriers.

 

It might help to see the Republic forces more as the UK forces are currently arranged. There are three services and still a lot of cap badges, but when the chaps with the scrambled egg are doing their high-level planning, they only talk in terms of capabilities- maritime, land and air. They never say, "I want the Army to do that and the RAF to do this." Everything is now very "purple" (tri-service) and it's only when you get a little further down the mission planning chain that people drill down to work out what force element can best provide it.

So, for example, the Royal Navy, the Army and the Royal Air Force all have air capability. Which one does the job in any particular op will depend on the conditions the force element will encounter.

It's called estimates - working out what you have to do, what might give you a problem doing it, and so what assets and elements you need to commit to get the job done. (Big chunk of officer training at staff colleges.) You end up pulling stuff in from a wide spectrum.

Does that make sense? I took this to its absolute and possibly excessive extreme in the Federal European defence model I have in the City of Pearl series, where there are still cap badges for morale purposes (it's hard to get behind an idea that isn't at the tribal camaraderie level) but that the bulk of the defence force is expected to have core skills that are supplemented by specialist adquals. (Except the Royal Marines, of course, who are special. )

 

Karen:

No! Don't repel the Fleet Junkies! We may be a bit obsessed with capital ships, but in spirit we are no different from you and those that love to discuss Clones or Jango/Boba/all Mandos.

We all just represent a segment of SW fandom.

So, stay that cutlass and pistol. We mean you no harm.

--Adm. Nick