Ok then raw numbers [link=http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2004/tab01a.html]Link[/link] Homicides has remained steady. Assaults have gone way up. Sexual assaults have gone way up. Robbery has dropped after peaking dramatically in 2001. You were saying? But I should be fair. While property crimes peaked around 2000 they have been dropping since then. And since the laws were made in response to a murderous rampage obviously the unaffected violent crime rate is nothing to be worried about while the late drop in property crimes show this law worked.