Senate Gun Control

Apart from the fact a civilian army being able to successfully revolt against a modern great power is ridiculous on the face of it, I am not sure why those same people who think it's even theoretically viable also insist on building up an already excessive military. Seems counter intuitive.

 

I actually am opposed to a larger, excessive military.

 

Revolutions succeed only with extensive support from soldiers, sailors, and marines who would have weapons regardless of the legality of civilian firearm ownership. Whiskey distillers in the late 18th century fought back against a tyrannical tax; President George Washington personally marched an army to confront them, and would have crushed the Whiskey Rebellion had they not dispersed before he arrived.

The Second Amendment was really useful in putting down slave revolts, though! We have a long tradition of it not applying to people who aren't white.

 

San Bernadino Elementary School Shooting, apparently 4 injured/dead

Early reports saying 2 students, teacher, and shooter

 

PD is stating it is an apparent murder suicide.

 

Lol. "Gun Control".

 

As someone who holds your opinion of "gun control" and has stated so here before I do believe you should expect to get an interesting reaction in 3....2.......1

 

@Scapro Tyler, Oh, I'm sure I will.

 

anyone who feels their opinion is adequately expressed by an idiotic meme doesn't really deserve an interesting reaction. but yeah, super cool thing to post in the wake of another school shooting. so much edge.

 

But, tom, my right to a firearm is more important than a school shooting. Didn't you know that?

 

Or we could just arm children because they could, you know, somehow, prevent shootings by being, erm, heavily armed.

 

Few thoughts:

1.) Require everyone buying a gun to go through a background check, mental health screen, and mandatory firearms safety course.
2.) Require gun owners to go through a qualification process (Maybe once every two years prove they can shoot what they aim at?)
3.) If others live in the house (family or friends sharing an apartment) they need to consent to a mental health screen as well.
4.) Effectively punish actual violations of the law. Don't let people go on the streets for gun crimes. In the interest in keeping prisons less crowded and "social justice" we have let 100s of gun crime offenders on the streets pending hearings to which they don't show up to and subsequently commit more crime.
5.) Recognize cops can't be everywhere. Institute some sort of certified First Response program where legal gun owners can become a first line of defense. Start with other first responders? Off-Duty military, Fire, EMS? Allow them the option to partake and undergo slightly more rigorous mental health screens.
6.) Hold companies responsible for protecting their goods. A lot of illegal guns are stolen from shipping containers and the like as an "added bonus" when stealing from train yards or shippers. Right now they are not held responsible if these items are stolen.

 

Death tool is up to three in the school shooting, one of the children have died.

 

Yay for the School District I work at to be in the news. With the shooter connected to said district in some form. Again.

Not.

*sighs* I'm all for Gun Control, but its blatantly obvious it will never happen. There are too many who stand by the 2nd Amendment.

 

I agree on limiting it to off-duty military, fire, EMS. Maybe other civil servants? I don't know where the line should be but I can agree on a line existing.

And I agree on the bad checks/pot. I mean we can just legalize weed and fund more cops/first responders with the tax revenue.

 

Sorry to hear that Darth_Elu.

Gun Control certainly won't happen during the Trump Administration.

 

I'd argue that anything First Response should be limited to those with training in ta field that deals with being a first responder. Fire, EMS, and LEO's primarily. That includes reserve officers, National Guard/Reserve soldiers, etc. Non emergency personnel or civilians cross that line and make a situation more tenuous, and really "stand your ground" is off the table at that point IMO. I'm not even a fan of other civil servants participating in it, whether they be an employee of the state, municipality, or federal government. I work with government employees across that spectrum regularly, and I can say that I'm not comfortable with that idea at all.

When there was the idea for teachers to be armed in schools, I wasn't a fan of every teacher or staff member having that possibility. I would however support a type of marshal program where training is rigorous and the members in the program are largely only known to the principal and a couple other people in the school outside of those at the district level.

Regarding marijuana, we're already moving that direction as a country state by state. As far as checks go, maybe people should keep better track of the finances?

Also Scapro, didn't you say you're a Libertarian? More taxes?

 

Unlike how most people like to think, particularly in the JCC, my feelings and beliefs don't always fit neatly into a box. I agree with certain things being necessary regardless of the party I decide to support.

In all seriousness I have become more libertarian based on social issues and the ****ery of the GOP between obstructionist politics to pro-Russia nonsense. I hope my party can one day come back to me.

I would agree with a marshall program for school people if they wished to participate and other First Responders (EMS/Fire) would need additional training to be a part of the program.

 

Yes in fact calls are already underway by Congressmen…….advocating concealed carry in DC.

 

No.

 

I've already heard a few of the Republican congressmen say it might be time to have security for all congress people. Because, you know, some crazy person who can get a gun easily and won't be caught ahead of time might shoot some of them again.

So... Are the rest of us also going to get police security every time we go out to events in public? Or would it make more sense to, I don't know... Control who gets guns in the first place in some way? Just a crazy thought.

 

No.