Senate Gun Control

Which ones in the US have been doing the murdering lately? The Feds or perhaps Minnesota or Utah? I hear Arizona can be a bit tough? New Mexico? Haven't been there but the cops on Breaking Bad looked like they weren't above a bit of civilian slaughtering before coffee and donuts.

 

You would feel safe with the guns only in the hands of the police and US gov't if you were a US citizen? The demeanor of television cops informs your view?

 

Oh yes. Everything I know about the US comes from watching TV. That's exactly what I was saying. I'm glad you caught the nuance.

Edit: to answer your question (even though you never answer mine) as a white boy then yes I would feel very safe if only the gubmint peeps had guns.

 

You wouldn't feel safe if you were a non-white US citizen with gov't and police possessing the only guns? Why the distinction?

To answer one of your questions, I don't personally fear anyone eating anyone's children.

 

Logically false. I am both in favour of gun control (as in fulfilling the 'well regulated militia' bit of the US holy constitution) and also against guns in principle.

That's probably untrue for most decent people, most law abiding people, most rational people. But the authorities, being a well regulated militia, are already armed, so what's the problem? Nobody is seriously talking about disarming the US citizenship, only putting into effect some constitutionally compatible regulations.

That's not true of all gun control advocates, but even if it was, why would that be a problem?

Nothing you said justifies tolerance for shooting schoolchildren, by the way.

 

That's not true of all gun control advocates, but even if it was, why would that be a problem?

Govt's have murdered a staggering number of their own people in the twentieth century, usually after they have disarmed them.

 

What, like Japan?

 

http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/NaziLawEnglish.htm

 

Really great comparing governments who want to have gun control to Hitler's nazi regime. Gooood job.

Do you really believe that the US government is trying to kill you after they took your guns? Are you really that paranoid? What kind of a delusion is that?

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wait - you have more guns than people ?

god , I always thought that was kind of an exagerration for comic effect .

 

Nazi Germany is Japan?

lol @ that site btw.

 

Really great comparing governments who want to have gun control to Hitler's nazi regime. Gooood job.

http://www.mercyseat.net/gun_genocide.html#sovietunion

 

http://jpfo.org/images02/NaziWeaponLaw1800x2667.gif

 

Which facts do you have dispute with?

 

Hef, really, that doesn't make your point any better if you continue to link to biased sites.

You're citing Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union and other countries as proof for your point. You're ignoring the fact all those regimes were dictatorships who wanted to oppress their citizens from the beginning.

You keep ignoring the fact that there are numerous DEMOCRACIES today who have gun control and who don't even try to oppress their citizens.

To say that governments that disarm their citizens are dictatorships per se is the same bs as saying the dictatorships of the 20th century were tyrannical because they were atheist governments.

 

JFC, I'd hate to live in fear like Hef does.

 

oh, this ****ing nonsense again.

Listen, Hef. America never had a revolutionary spirit that required the people to be armed to stop the GUBMINT going bad. This is one of many lies you tell yourselves in order to perpetuate the myth of American exceptionalism. You are in fact a stunningly mediocre people, blue collar sophistication coupled with lucky timing (like, for example, when you sold arms to the allies in both world wars and got rich off it).

The revolutionary war was a war between the great empires of France and Britain, the latter of whom was severely distracted by madness on the throne. Were it not for France's goading and arming you, the outcome would have been different. You were little more than proxy mercenaries, and there was no moment when the "stiffy of freedom could be trousered no longer by brave patriots" or however you idiots talk about it. It was a commercial transaction played out by a world power who just enjoyed pissing the Brits off. That's all.

But since then, and in many iterations, you've had to create new histories that are less mediocre, less ordinary than the truth (because apparently acknowledging you're not only not special, you took every high achievement of the intellect and soul and dumbed it down, so that the most simple idiot is revered (and elected) is impossible). You have guns because the GUBMINT might revert to British any second now.

Piss on that.

The amendment's wording is clear; it exists to ensure that, in the event of invasion, a civilian milita can be formed. Like Switerzland, except it's silent on the notion of a standing army. Because of your general intellectual corruption - whereas Europe, for example, was a hotbed of ideology and philosophy the best you could manage is libertarianism - you formed an unhealthy relationship with the gun and then decided no, because of this bull**** myth which one argues the people who wrote it knew wasn't true (THEY WERE THERE), actually it's to keep the government honest.

Only you've had "dishonest" or "tyrannical" government for so long now, and not lifted a finger, that the excuse - wafer thin in the beginning, transparent now - just has no purpose.

So you need to stop. As a nation. Just stop being four letter c-words (rhymes with hunt) in general, but on guns specifically. Say you want them, they make you feel less pathetic as men (and wimmens) and without the compensatory mechanism offered by the gun you'll feel less special. Really don't care, just as long as the whole "WE NEEDS TO BEWARE THE GUBMINT" notion ****s off for all eternity.

 

It is amusing that your average conspiracy theorist gun lover will violently reject any notion of there being any similarities at all between the freedom loving, democratic, morally and religiously righteous US and fascist, nazi, and dictator regimes/societies except when it comes to gun control and then it seems the US is just one tiny microscopic step away from becoming a tyrannical, fascist dictatorship. In a religious or political thread, these people are always laughing at how superior the US is and how far removed the US is from backward other countries are (like Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc etc) but in a gun control thread, the US is basically teetering on the precipice of tyranny and backwardness but for the fact that the population has guns- take that away and instant chaos and dark ages.

 

Geez, what's in the ionosphere that is making all the Aussies so crazy today?

Is Pine Gap testing out their top secret anger emotion inducing wave generator again?

 

We dislike bellends, Mr44, and it's a default personality type/setting for most people in the land between Canada and Mexico.

 

Mr44 - one of the effects of your country voting in Mr Donald Trump as your orange President is that you forfeited the right of accusing any person, in any other country, of being crazy.