Lit Han and Leia in the EU - A Discussion Thread (Life Debt spoilers must be tagged)

if your talking Rey, I can't say that. I love Rey. Give her some time. she is just beginning.

 

I think she meant Kylo, since Rey is obviously not Han and Leia's.

I miss Jaina too, and Han's special relationship with her. Or Han having a non-Force sensitive kid he could relate to would have been nice.

Abrams wanted to reset the galaxy back to ANH, but hopefully the EU will give us more insight into the galaxy rebuilding after the peace treaty signed at the Battle of Jakku and the political situation of the New Republic. From what Leia says in Bloodline, it seems it's been so peaceful the past 20 years the next generation has forgotten how dangerous the Empire was. Unfortunately, Pablo said "There's not much point in reliving the 90s" when I asked if there would be books about the Solo family in happier times. However, I'm sure they'll get around to writing in that time period, or maybe even an animated TV series some day.

 

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Massive Bloodline spoilers at this link: http://reylooo.tumblr.com/post/143514072983/book-review-bloodline-by-claudia-gray[/spoiler]

 

I enjoyed TFA, helps that i don't care for the character of Han or Chewbacca i guess.
But i thought you people would like this.

 

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In the excerpt, Leia says her and Han are often apart because of work, but because they fought all the time, so I think that Reylo fan is just blowing Han's joke that if they spent 3 months together on a small ship they'd kill each other out of proportion. It seems similar to Bantam when they didn't see each other a lot because they both had busy schedules.

 

don't really love what i am hearing.

 

I'm not loving what I've heard concerning H/L's relationship but I'll have to read the book myself before I can really comment.

 

Count me among the seemingly growing number of discontents over Han and Leia's relationship.

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Just a few days ago I had renewed hope for the NEU and Han and Leia's place in it, but know we learn from the 3 free chapters that they seem to have spent very little time together over the course of their marriage. As a Han and Leia fan this is extremely disappointing. I have to wonder why TPTB even bothered to marry them off in the first place if they were only going to keep them apart.

 

I'm with you too. Some of the snippets from Bloodline are great, and Claudia Gray has done a great job with what she was given. But the more I hear about it the more I fear that once again Han and Leia have been shafted. Someone at Lucasfilm clearly absolutely detests them and it's really not fair. Is it too much to ask that they get treated properly?

Looks like I'll be going back to Legends and stuff the new canon.

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I'm getting mixed feeling, but I've learned to take reviews with a grain of salt, especially when I haven't read the book. Some may be trolling, and many are just biased or have totally different taste.

I'm not going to get myself worked up, until I have something concrete to get worked up about. I want to judge for myself, not by someone else's possible misinterpretation of it.

Trust me, if there is anything good or bad, I'll be one of the first one's to spoiler tag my feelings, complete with page numbers.


Come on Tuesday, I want my book already.. too bad there isn't any camping out like there was with the Harry Potter books.

 

Whatever happens, we have to remember that Claudia had to work with what she was told. The amount of damage control she may do is limited, but I trust her skills.

 

Oh I'd never blame Claudia. It's not her fault, she is one of us after all. She loves Han and Leia.

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We are so, so lucky the author to write the first canon book about Han and Leia's marriage was a huge Han/Leia fan. Imagine if we got some non Han/Leia fan who wrote them as roommates (the way they were sometimes written in Bantam).

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A bit worried that if Rian Johnson had input on Bloodline, that means JJ and him probably talked about this backstory of Ben feeling "abandoned" because of his absentee parents. Let's hope Rian didn't direct Claudia to put that in her book.

 

I don't blame Claudia either and am extremely appreciative of her for the lovely tidbits we got in the free chapters. I know she most likely had to follow a predetermined story outline.

 

Me too.

The funny thing is, as a sometimes fanfic writer, l have occasionally thought "what would it be like to be asked to write an official?" And it's very odd to think that if they asked me now, I'm pretty sure I'd say no (not that anyone is asking or will ask, given the raking over the coals I've given Disney's version of events).
That may make some people roll their eyes, like "oh, yeah, of course you'd say no," but I actually do think I'd say "nah, have some of my own original stuff to work on," because something I'd really like to do is create an original story that shows a man and woman managing to fight together side-by-side as husband and wife in a SciFi universe just to show it can be done and is plenty filled with conflict and drama.

 

Clearly in Skywalker males it is. Both Luke and Anakin were world-class whiners. But it seems not to express itself in females. I had thought that it would be weeded out of the line with the non-whining Solo genes, but clearly it's a dominant gene only expressed in males, so Ben had a 50% chance of getting it.

 

But at least Luke grew out of it and matured. Anakin lost it when he went dark, and got all emotionless except for anger, which he kept tightly controlled and remained cold and calculating ( at least until Luke came back, but that's a different story)

Ben seems to have missed an important memo, he combined the whininess and the anger so he comes off like a little kid in a grown man's body.

 

So you're saying he's your average millennial.

 

I'm starting to feel guilty for having been born in 1988. Not that I chose to, you know.

 

I was surprised to learn Kylo was close to 30. After watching TFA I thought he was closer to 20 or in his late teens, he seemed so unstable!

 

You're forgiven -- I've taught some truly outstanding millennials who wouldn't throw an entitled hissy fit even if they WERE entitled to do it. It's just that as a generation, the entitled is strong with you...
ON EDIT - I also just saw that you're not American. I only presume to speak of my experiences with American millennials, who are likely more entitled than most, because we American tend to act more entitled than we should a lot of the time!!

 

On the evidence of Lost Stars alone, I have no doubt that Claudia Gray could create the most fantastic, platinum plated sparkly object that looks utterly amazing with whatever plot she was given to work with....

But.... A turd of plot remains a turd of a plot no matter the quality of polishing - which is the problem for me here.

 

I'm the mother of a millennial and sadly I've seen it. Luckily even my son says Kylo is a brat. So not all millennials are like that, just the ones who get all the press

I'm madder at JJ, stupid fanboy reliving his youth. I can see how Adam needs t get inside the mind of Kylo, and his warped view, which doesn't necessarily match reality. He is also brainwashed by Snoke.

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