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*said like Mr. Burns* Ex-cel-lent.

So this is basically a Han and Leia free for all, right? Nice!

*cracks knuckles in anticipation* All right, let the Han and Leia discussion begin.

Um, as master of ceremonies, Leela, would you like to start us off?

 

free for all within reason, yes. Flaming will not be tolerated.

Ok, topic for discussion -

When do you think Han fell for Leia? And when do you think he realised he had fallen for her?

 

I think he fell for her in the trash compactor, definately.

 

I have arrived

Great thread, Leela! So it's like an all and everything Han/Leia thread, right for all opinions? Awesome

I'd say Han fell for Leia shortly before ESB. I'm thinking at Ord Mantell maybe her life was put in danger and he realized what it would be like to lose her (which made him decide to leave to pay off his debt.). Realizing that he was in love with her, which would scare the hell of of him since it was pretty obvious in ANH he had no plans to get emotionally attached to *anyone*. But I think he *really* knew how much she meant to him was sometime during ESB after kiss. I think it affected both of them more than they had ever imaged. By the time he saw "I know" he was totally gone

There was definitely an attraction right from the beginning, and it came to a boiling point in ESB, I think

 

I think Han fell for Leia at the end of ANH, when they return from the Battle of Yavin. Of course, there's an instant attraction between them during the Death Star escape but it's sorta masked in both of them by their little facades.

I think by the start of ESB Han has realised he's fallen for her because he's actively pursuing her, albeit in a light-hearted kinda way.

 

I think he fell for her gradually over the 3 years between ANH and ESB, only realising it sometime towards the end of that period. Which probably scared the hell out of him, I figure Ord Mantell works just as well for the turnaround point -- before them I see him pursuing her more as a way of riling her, making her drop the royalty facade rather than because he had to be with her.

I don't think that makes any sense, but if you read Luke's Girl by XF Scully, that's what I think happened

Great thread Leela!

 

Thanks Elektra! XF Scully's "Luke's Girl" is one of my favorite fics too.

 

Oooooh! Another Han and Leia thread. Count me in. I don't have time at the moment to add my comments but will do so later.

 

I'd say it was somewhere between ANH and ESB. Though there was some major sparks flying in the first film, I don't think he actually fell for her there...

 

Okay, to answer the question. I think Han fell for Leia at some point in ANH. Not sure exactly when, the sparks were flying almost from the get go. I think he realized he had fallen for her around the time of the ESB when he knew he had to leave and probably couldn't figure out why he was dragging his feet.

 

I think Han fell for Leia sometime between ANH and ESB.

There are sparks between the two in ANH, to be sure , but I don't think either fell for the other in it...

Since my first viewing of ANH in 1995 it seemed to me as if they both had emotional baggage and/or issues to deal with before either was really willing to be open with one another... and even then, there's that love/hate relationship I so adore.

When I saw ESB for the first time, this feeling was reinforced by the fact that they were still in pretty much the same place as they were at the end of ANH. Nothing in terms of a relationship had changed. In ESB though, Han, and then Leia, finally admit to the other (and probably themselves! ) that they have feelings that aren't based solely on friendship, but romance.

That's MHO, at least.

~*~Bria

 

There can never be too many H/L threads, that's what I'm alway saying anyhow.


I also thought that Han first fell for Leia in the trash compactor. I don't think he was ready to admit it to even himself until ESB.

 

Yeah, trash compactor. Or, right outside it actually. You know, when they were shooting at the stormies.

When he knew? That's anyone's guess, but I'd say right before ESB. Come on, when he's telling her 'looks like this is it...' he was already planning out the honeymoon. Well maybe not, but you know..

 

LOL, Yanksfan.

Yeah, there was definitely *something* at the beginning. And Han was interested in her, maybe not as a *soulmate* but as something significent. You know, when he says the "You think a Princess and a guy like me?" and winks at her, he's got a thing for her at least whether he wants to admit that or not But Leia wasn't ready, Alderaan and all, and so she didn't really give him any encouragement, which is *why* I think it took him so long to get up the courage to kiss her. If she rejected him, he knew how much it would hurt him and he didn't want to risk it.

That's my incoherent take on it anyways

 

I think since it wasnt really scripted for Leia and Han to fall for each other in ANH, all we see in the movie is good old-fashioned flirting. So it probally had to be sometime after ANH that they fell in Love with each other.

 

I think maybe at first it was more the challenge then anything that spurred Han's interest. Particularly after Luke's reaction to his comment about "a Princess and a guy like me". But over time, as he came to know her better, I think he actually began to wonder if it was possible for such different people to have a relationship. So by the time the ESB takes place, he knows he's feeling something for her, although maybe he's not quite sure what, and their conversation in the South passage was his attempt at trying to determine exactly what she felt for him.

 

Ahhhh...the scene in the south passage. Sometimes I wish as a surprise element he would have just grabbed her by the shoulders and planted one on her lips. I bet deep down she was wishing he would too.

 

If wishes were fishes...or something or other.

It could totally be possible that he liked her right away, but not not her liking him. She could've been put off by his "money money money" routine.

 

I think that Han fell for Leia before she fell for him. She was attractive to him right from the first, but I think that she needed time to get to know who he really was before she fell in love with him. I would say that Han fell for her the moment he saw her. Leia fell in love some time inbetween ANH and ESB but tried hard to hide it.

 

Very true Corran. It took awhile for Leia to see behind the mercenary facade that Han erected.

 

I agree for a couple reasons, but the main one is that she was very goal oriented toward the Rebellian. It came first and she wasn't really looking for anything else. Han believed in it eventually, but in the beginning he did more out of feelings for his friends.

 

Ooooh! This is going really well!

I think he was definately interested in her by the end of ANH, and was in love with her by the start of ESB.

And, I agree, I think he fell for her before she fell for him. Neither wanted a relationship. They were both emotionally crippled by their past. Yet there was a compelling kinship between them because of that.

I too think something happened on or around the time of Ord Mantell.

 

All right, I gotta another question to pose: when did they tell Luke that something was going on?

Now, okay, before you all jump in with "right after ESB, of course!" keep this in mind: there was some reference in Truce at Bakura that Luke 'wasn't sure' what the deal was with them. I dunno if we take it his statement at face value, but it's something to chew on....so really, when did Luke find out about them?

 

Something must of happened for Han to have expected a different reaction from Leia when he said goodbye to her in the command center. Then there was that whole conversation in the South passage. That causes me to believe that they had gotten close inbetween the two movies. I don't think it got to the point where they were lovers, but something must of happened that gave Han the impression that they could become such.