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Lit Han Solo in Swarm War?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sinrebirth , Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Was this ever detailed somewhere I missed?

    The Han being tortured by the Chiss, for reference.
     
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Didn't they use a Han lookalike, and fake the torture, in the hope of coercing info out of Leia? At least for the ear-amputation scene.
     
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  3. StarLorrd

    StarLorrd Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yes.
     
  4. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Lookalike or clone, I wonder...
     
  5. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Wow, I clearly have no memory of reading this book....
     
  6. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    I remember Han saying "That poor fella looks like me!" or something. Clone? Doubt it. Probably just a double or a convincing computer program.
     
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  7. PimpBacca

    PimpBacca Jedi Master star 4

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    Didn't they go all mission impossible and have someone with a mask on.
     
  8. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    It was Tom Cruise
     
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  9. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Denning went torture-crazy DNT onwards.
     
  10. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Hey I just realized this question is probably about trying to figure out a way to make TFA and Legends mix. :p
     
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  11. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Man, this sort of thing just really sums up DNT

    Well duh.
     
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  12. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It is one of several avenues that one may be approaching about one canon for oneself and ones others.


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  13. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Hence Obi-Wan's line: "Before the dark times, before the Denningverse." ;)
     
  14. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    Star by Star and Tatooine Ghost are not light on the pain and suffering...
     
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  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    And if you dig around into Denning's pre-SW D&D novels, you'll find plenty of the same sort of thing.
     
  16. revan772

    revan772 Jedi Master star 4

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    Why does Denning get so much hate? I really have enjoyed every novel I have read from him, Star Wars and otherwise. He seems like a great author.
     
  17. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    It's been discussed at great, great length elsewhere - I'd go so far as to say beaten into the ground, and I say that as one of his more persistent critics - and there's no need to repeat the majority of the details here. But to clarify why specifically people are taking shots right now, it's because, as Force Smuggler said, one criticism against him is the overuse of exaggerated violence and torture in his books. And something like a random scene with a random Han lookalike being tortured that never apparently got explained or followed up on seems very exemplary of that. It's like the definition of "gratuitous".
     
  18. Amon_Amarth

    Amon_Amarth Force Ghost star 6

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    Interesting question.
    A lookalike probably. It was established at the beginning of LOTF that there was a fair share of the Big 3 impersonators in the galaxy (at least on Corellia iirc).
     
  19. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Yeah. While Tatooine Ghost and Star By Star weren't bad, the violence and other unnecessary scenes became over the top in his other books, especially in LOTF: Invincible.
     
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  20. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That was a fairly fun little side plot, with Luke being too short to be a Luke.


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  21. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    I'd agree this is part of it, but not the entirety.

    The other element is Denning has put himself on books that occupy roadblock status in their eras, as it were. If you want DN-LOTF-FOTJ-C to make any sense whatsoever, you have to read a lot of him.

    Traviss is in a similar position with regard to her LOTF books. If you really object to the Mando stuff - it certainly killed TZ for me - you can easily sideline the series. It's an offshoot. LOTF? Not so much and suddenly, blam! You've Luke's order having to deal with all that Mando stuff - in response to which, some people really won't be happy.

    If you don't want to say read Zahn or Stackpole, well, their stuff will get recapped elsewhere and there's other stories but this is much reduced in the late era with only MF, Riptide, Crosscurrent and XW:MK being alternatives.

    So that funneling effect does tend to increase the ire.
     
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