Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

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  1. TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus

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    Ah, but you can't really say they'll be similar. After all, JW wrote ANH and Close Encounters in the same year, and they are about as different as you can get.
  2. Son-Of-Suns Jedi Master

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    I enjoyed all the other Potter scores before the film without knowing the context which they were in. I see nothing wrong with initial reactions and criticisms, because they may change.

    And like that...he's gone.
  3. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    Exactly what I thought when I first heard it.

    I think this track is pretty good, but seeing as how it's so short, and I have no idea what scene it is tied to, I can't really comment much on it - other than on its own it's fairly interesting. I look forward to hearing the whole score.

    The song, The is the Night, not too impressed by that. Not sure how well it will fit into the film, but I know that I don't care for it right now.
  4. redsabreanakin Jedi Grand Master

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    I haven't heard it yet but I don't want anything that sounds like Elfman...It'll end up sounding like Batman.
  5. Draxtralia Jedi Knight

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    It sounds nothing like Elfman.
  6. Boba_Fett_123 Jedi Master

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    404 File not found.:rolleyes: Anyone have the tracks saved?
  7. Cerrabore Jedi Master

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  8. Boba_Fett_123 Jedi Master

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    Thanks.

    EDIT: It sounds very Elfman-esque. I like it, though. Kinda gives me the feeling that the film may not be starting in the Riddle house, though (unless this is not the first track from the film?).
  9. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    It's not really a big deal, but I hope the cd isn't made up of a bunch of short tracks. On the two Doyle cds I have, I would say the average track length is a little over 1:30. I like them to be a bit on the longer side. Not however like Crminson Tide with those two 20 min tracks.
  10. han_solo_321 Jedi Master

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    Oh my gosh!

    THE ENRIE SOUNDTRACK IS UP ON AOL!

    LINK

    The 3rd track has the teaser trailer music!
  11. Pooja Jedi Grand Master

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    This is personally my favorite score so far. Wow. I'm just hearing a lot more variety and flavor than I heard in the other scores. I don't think anything will ever top Fawkes' theme, but overall, I'm liking this more than the previous scores.
  12. Darth_Vader-Anakin Jedi Master

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    Well, I just finished listening to the whole soundtrack and here's my opinion.

    Honestly, I don't know what to think. It certainly isn't John Williams, but that's not a bad thing. I think most of the music is wonderful and espcially tracks like: The Quidditch World Cup, The Dark Mark, Golden Egg, Harry Potter's Love, Voldermort, Cedric, and Hogwart's Hymn (this one in particular). I only noticed Williams' themes being used twice, but that may be different in the final film. I think my biggest gripe (remember however that I've only listened once) is that there seems to be a lack of themes. I didn't really notice any themes at all except perhaps one for the Goblet, but even for that I'm not sure it was an actual theme.

    Overall, Doyle's score didn't blow me away like I wanted it to. However, although I'm a huge fan of Williams, it's nice to see someone else take the job (plus I'm really looking forward to Memoirs of Geisha which Williams might not have been able to do had he taken on GoF). Given time, I'm sure I learn to love this score. And I'll of course reserve final judgement until I see how well the score plays in the film.

    I have question - I assume the 3 songs as well as the two waltzes will be played during the ball? How long is that scene going to be!?

    EDIT:
    I stand by my original statement that the first track reminds me of Elfman, but not to worry, after a full listen that's the only track that gave me that feeling.
  13. TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus

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    We're sorry, this feature is not yet available for Macintosh.


    [face_frustrated]
  14. Indiana_Fett Jedi Master

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    Owned.

    By the way...This is the Night got less nauseating this time around. I still dislike it, though.
  15. mvwg3003 Jedi Master

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    Anyone else having trouble playing this?
  16. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Overall I think the score is fantastic. Much better than I'd feared. I would like to hear more themes, especially Williams' themes, but it sounds really good so far. I look forward to hearing it in the film.

  17. TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus

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    I agree with Strilo. This score is ten times better than I had feared. It not only has good moments, it has *great* moments as well. I'd say "Voldemort", and "Foreign Visitors Arrive" being some of them. It also has iffy points - "Harry Potter's Love" is very soppy, and the Zimmer-esque drums don't do much for me.

    Overall I cannot wait to hear it in the context of the film.
  18. Boba_Fett_123 Jedi Master

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    It doesn't seem to work anymore. :_|
  19. mvwg3003 Jedi Master

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    Try here instead

    http://www.harrypottersoundtrack.com/

    It's not the whole thing, only a few tracks
  20. Draxtralia Jedi Knight

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    First Rowling's Half-Blood Prince was awful, and now Patrick Doyle's score is less than mediocre. Things don't look good for Potter.
  21. TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus

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    I cannot disagree more with those two statements, Draxtralia.

    Half-Blood Prince was absolutely terrific, and I really like this score and am looking forward to seeing it in context.
  22. Draxtralia Jedi Knight

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    That book made me want to gouge my eyes out. Rowling sent character and plot development into an entirely new level of inconsistancy and absurdity not seen since Edward D. Wood Jr. I think people only liked it because it had "Harry Potter" written on it. It was the book that made me realize Rowling is no master and Potter is nothing more than a sexed-up boarding school romantic comedy.

    As for the GOF score, maybe it's the compression, but the orchestrations sound almost as flat as a Takayuki Hattori score. The repetitiveness and lack of emotional depth make it sound so bland and generic as if it has no identity. The three songs also indicate, to me at least, that Warner Bros. will probably phase out full score soundtracks for the series if they continue to be as bad as this. This score proves that John Williams is ultimate example of musical awesomeness, his scores for the Potter films made me interested in the series in the first place, but now that he's gone, it's as if everything else good about it went away with him.
  23. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I also completely and emphatically disagree on both counts. HBP was an excellent book. I genuinely enjoyed it, and not because it says HP on the cover. As for the score, it is NOT John Williams and his score would have been far superior. But I do not expect every score to be his caliber. It's like expecting every band to be the Beatles. Not gonna happen. Doyle's score is more subtle than Williams' previous Potter scores, a little darker and more Elfmanesque. Time will tell if it holds up to repeated listens. As it stands now I think it bodes well for fitting into the film wonderfully, which is after all a score's job.

  24. Mastadge Manager Emeritus

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    I haven't read HBP. Started it, but I made it halfway through the second giant infodump chapter when I lost interest. I'll go back to it eventually. Rowling really lost it in Book 4. She's got a plot in these books, but she also needs some major editing.

    As for the score, I haven't listened to it yet. I don't tend to enjoy scores when I listen to them online. That said, while I enjoyed most of POA, I didn't care much for the first two HP scores and I generally prefer Doyle's style to Williams' these days. *shrug*
  25. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I generally prefer Doyle's style to Williams' these days. *shrug*

    Holy god... that's the worst thing I have ever heard you say.
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