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Prince Yyrkoon?

 

I thought it was the House of Normandy.

Also, lol @ the LotR Crusader Kings mod:

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Aegon I, individually, certainly. But an island-dwelling habitually malevolent sorcerous dragon-riding remnant of a once-great empire ruled by an albino in black and red armor? All Moorcock, right there.

 

... wait, what do you think the Normans were?

 

Vikings who were blown off course, ended up in France, got drunk, and showed up a century late to the let's-invade-England party?

 

Oh. I guess that makes more sense. I thought they had dragons.

 

I'm sure they would've liked to have had dragons, too.

 

Maybe you are thinking on their dragon-ships?

 

Of course they did:

It was the opposite for me - I felt far too much space was wasted on the Tagaryan kings and Vylerians in general, and that the parts about the area beyond the Free Cities was far and away the most interesting part. Both because of the places themselves and just how much of the former two sections felt like retreads of what was already known for the most part.

In particular, I really loved the Summer Islands, Sothoyos, and the many variations of the long night story. I was a little disappointed that Yi Ti was a pretty standard fantasy China given how the rest of the continent blended many influences, though there some interesting things there as well.

Though I will admit I loved the picture of some of the original Valyrian architecture - I was expecting some Greco-Roman styled buildings like is standard for fallen civilizations, but they made something really interesting and unique looking.

Oh my yes, this book is very dark and full of spoilers.

 

You don't. You just get banned for spam.
Sorry.

 

MercenaryAce

I just took care of your deletion requests.

--Adm. Nick

 

Why? They were funny!

 

I didn't realise that marriages between nieces and nephews were a preferred tac of the Targs as well as the sibling stuff.

DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING UNLESS YOU KNOW YOUR ASoIaF FACTS AND THEORIES. GoT WATCHERS WHO WISH TO BE UNSPOILED GO AWAY NOW.

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Jon + Daenerys Targaryen confirmed!

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Though I still think she's gonna die and eventually he'll marry Sansa. She's his "sister" by adoption but only his cousin by blood, so that'll be more acceptable to the readers. Also he has a thing for red heads, and Sansa is gonna be the uber-beautiful queen to surpass Cersei.

 

Amusingly, it's not just the Targaryens, but the Starks, as well. That's one tangled family tree they've got, there (it actually has more incest than the original preview version).

 

Oh no, I completely understand. The story is about Westeros, and it makes sense to focus more on that. And it also makes sense from an in-universe perspective that the Maesters would know a lot more about their own history rather than far away lands - heck, its pretty impressive that they know as much as they do about far off places. I am just talking about what personally grabbed my interests and fired my imagination. Oh right, I suppose I did say wasted...yeah, that's too strong a word.

PS - when I first read your comment, I missed that bit about the differing sources is pretty interesting, especially the parts where the more plausible explanations are clearly wrong, like the Others just being a demonized tribe of Wildlings.

Though I have to admit, when it comes to the Dance of the Dragons, I am not sure which source is supposed to be more reliable. Given GRRM's subversion of heroic fantasy tropes, I expect that Mushroom's versions are the more accurate, but his version of what happened between Cole and Rhaenyra doesn't seem likely at all to me given that Cole's later actions are so incredibly spiteful.

 

The book is written in universe and the vast bulk is a text for King Robert - there's an addendum at the end in Tommen's reign, but that mostly consists of genealogy trees for the various families (again, in universe, so limited by what would be commonly known or accepted).
And I did enjoy the Targaryens - it gave a personality to each of them

 

What if we're caught up on the show but generally forget half of it between seasons?

 

Then there will be good reminders.

Oh, GrandAdmiralJello :

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Did you notice the evidence that the Faceless Men destroyed Valyria?

 

Do anybody know of any good pictures of kiffar architecture? The only one I could find was this one

 

Uli - not sure how the book confirmed that...theory.

 

It didn't confim anything. "SO AND SO CONFIRMED" is just a meme.

The spoiler tags were for:

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R+L=J, which the show has yet to even really hint at.