PT The "What-If?" Depository - ALL conceptual/hypothetical conversation goes here

No worries, this thread can be used as a "catch-all" and as a "launch-point". For future reference; if a random question generates a significant response, posts can be split-off to form a new thread to host that specific discussion. If that ever happens and I don't see it, feel free to tag me, or start-up a conversation.

 

How do you kill a Sith Lord? Slicing one in half or dismembering one doesn’t seem to guarantee their death…and with Episode VII looming, perhaps we will see that even throwing one down a reactor core doesn’t finish the job?

SithStarSlayer & anyone else!

 

Chopping off his head seems to work.. like Dracula. Hey, wait a minute...

 

Or maybe they just need lots and lost of love. They could die of an axfisiante hug... Kinda like Vader.

 

Sith Lords don't die, they get recycled...

 

They can survive ten years in a pit without their legs and the ability to go to the bathroom.

 

You mean as in similar to soap (space) operas where no one ever really dies for certain?

 

I see it from teh Pharcyde... "going" wasn't his problem, Maul lacked the ability to put the brakes on.

 

Their anger keeps them alive and also maintains control over major organ functions I guess.

 

Darth_Nub, SithStarSlayer

At the end of ROTS Vader is informed by Sidious that he killed Padme'...is their any more details from the novelizations or otherwise that share Vader's reaction when he discovered later that Padme had given birth to his children, which would of course potentially nullify Sidious' statement since Padme would have had to live long enough after Anakin's force-choke to give birth, which would imply that he didn't kill her directly... as he was lead to believe.

Would be very interested to know Vader's inner reflections in this regards and how and when he discovered this truth if anything was ever written about it.

 

Vader didn't know that the children had survived until after ANH, when his research uncovered the name of the Rebel who blew up the Death Star. He put two and two together and realized that Luke Skywalker must have been his son. He still never knew about Leia until his duel with Luke in ROTJ.

 

Nothing beyond the EU, as far as I know (there was a comic series way back which covered Vader's discovery of the identity of the Rebel pilot who blew up the Death Star - but that was published before the PT came out).

Apart from the EU, which you really can't call definitive, post-ROTS, all you've got are OT-era sources, none of which address the issue (or Luke & Leia's mother, for that matter) at all. Of course, back then, it probably wasn't the case that Palps 'lied' to Anakin anyway.

The exchange between Vader & Palpatine in ESB (both OOT & SE) clearly indicates that Vader was keeping whatever feelings he had regarding the matter to himself. He doesn't start screaming at Palps' hologram that he'd been lied to.

 

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Inner torment looks like THIS.​

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AFAIK: Vader first learned about his offspring when he heard the last name.​

 

Vader did kill Padme in his anger... from a certain point of view.

 

GGrievous, you're going to find that many of the truth we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

 

That line

 

*truths

 

A disturbing picture in my head

 

I wouldn't be able to answer that officially, but with Mace as a master lightsaber duelist, and expert at form 7, debatably the most aggressive form, I'd give the edge to Mace in any fair fight between the two.

 

PT Will Toydarians make good Jedi/Sith Killers?

As seen on TPM Watto was not affected by Jedi Mind trick.

He states that this is because he is a Toydarian.

Watto: ...Here it is...a T-14 hyperdrive generator!! Thee in luck, I'm the only one hereabouts who has one...but thee might as well buy a new ship. It would be cheaper, I think...Saying of which, how's thee going to pay for all this?
Qui-Gon: I have 20,000 republic dataries...
Watto: Republic credits? Republic credits are no use out here. I need something different, something more real...
Qui-Gon: I don't have anything else, but credits will do fine. [waves his hand, attempting to use the Jedi mind trick] Watto: No, they won'ta.

Qui-Gon: Credits will do fine. [tries the mind trick again] Watto: No, they won'ta! What, you think you're some kind of Jedi, waving your hand around like that? I'm a Toydarian. Mind tricks won't work on me; only money. No money! No parts! No deal! And no one else has a T-14 hyperdrive, I promise you that.

I assume they are imune to force tricks.

So they should be really great Jedi/Sith Assasins.

 

I guess they could, but it seems like they're not very interested in force-sensitive beings.

 

Being immune to Jedi Mind Tricks doesn't really make them immune to lightsabers. I gotta think if QuiGon and Watto threw down, QuiGon would come out on top. Call it a hunch.

 

I mean Qui Gon has trained for more than 30 years, if Watto would had trained that same amount of time. He could win.

 

I disagree. There is obviously a connection between force sensitivity and prowess with a lightsaber. Note that I am not saying it is a perfect correlation, but clearly someone who is force sensitive and trains for 30 years is going to be a better swordsman than someone who is not force sensitive and trains for 30 years. Plus Jedi would always have other tricks up their sleeves, such as a conveniently timed force push.