Then don't vote? Didn't, I came here for what was an interesting discussion -- for a while, but then it just dissengrated into big ball of insults and hostilities. I can have any opinion I dang well please. Absolutely. But the fact you start a blatant "bashers shove off" thread states the hypocricy that you are not OK with us having any opinion we dang well please. CharlesJedi: "Sure, just take your anti-TPM opinions elsewhere."* Oh, that makes sense, take our TPM opinions to non-TPM discussion forums. That gets threads locked quicker than flaming on any board you go to. *Yes, I am aware you didn't say that in your last response, I was just anticipating the obvious. EDIT - Stryphe gives TheJediCharles a big sloppy kiss.