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[HCSF] Return of the King syndrome, anyone?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith (Non-Spoilers)' started by woj101, Jan 2, 2005.

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  1. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh, I know! I know!

    "The Matrix is overrated." - Mace Windy

    :p



    :cool: Mace Windy,
    too windy for spoilers!
     
  2. BauconBatista

    BauconBatista Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Wow, a whole page of replies before Windy made "The Remark"! A new Guinness World Record! [face_dancing] 8-}

    I'll also be sad to see the end of Star Wars :(
     
  3. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Wow, a whole page of replies before Windy made "The Remark"!"

    I was trying to use restraint, but you guys made it too difficult for me.

    In this forum, I try to be professional.... :p



    :cool: Mace Windy,
    too windy for spoilers!
     
  4. MaceWindyII

    MaceWindyII Jedi Youngling star 2

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    It isn't working.



    :mad: MaceWindyII,
    mace windy's unsuccessful sequel
     
  5. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost star 4

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    I saw the ROTK with the school class I am in when it was released and the audience laughed the whole time. I must admit, while the laughing pissed me off (talking during movies is rude, especially if the reaction is inappropriate) but it sure did have so very unintentionally funny/ bad moment and lots of yawning during the endings. I saw FOTR twice in cinemas, enjoyed it. Then in mid-2002 AOTC came out, had it's glory and then the media started overhyping LOTR. Especially starting SW vs. LOTR wars helped tearing apart the moviegoers. I too lost interest in LOTR back then. I didn't mind go seeing TTT (though I planned it as it was around).
    The LOTR Trilogy is overrated. It is way too long and the cinematography and everything got boring very fast (IMO).
    TPM and AOTC had a much bigger scale and offered a lot more variety (okay, it isn't fixed to a book and takes place in a distant universe).

    I am afraid that ROTS might eventually disappoint me somehow. That would be terrible being the final SW Episode.
     
  6. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    To me, TLOTR is as great as SW. SW is more rewatchable, though, because it's fast paced and has more diversity.
    As far as syndromes go; I don't think I will feel empty after ROTS is out and I have it on DVD. Quite the contrary. That will be the moment when I say "At last!"
    Finally, I will have my Saga on the shelf, to watch whenever I want and twist and turn to my heart's delight. I'll be able to watch a scene in TPM and compare it to another in ROTS. Or compare ROTJ and ROTS. Or feel the leap in time between ROTS and ANH. See the full development of Anakin.
    etc
    etc
    etc



    Star Wars is one
    /LM
     
  7. Ekenobi

    Ekenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I know I will not have that feeling. Becuas then it be time to wait until it comes out on DVD. I do love LOTR but I have to say the multi endings dragged it out some in ROTK. Not really sure why gandolf Frodo and Bilbo were leaving the Shire. Oh well. These movies will live on in DVD.
     
  8. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I guess if you didn't read the books, the scene on the ship at the Havens doesn't really make sense.

    Okay, maybe Gandalf and the Elves, but why Frodo and Bilbo?

    Because they were Ringbearers - it's kind of like a huge honour bestowed upon them for bearing the burden of the Ring - to journey West (into Heaven, essentially).
     
  9. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost star 5

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    Will they live forever there, despite the fact that they are not elves?
     
  10. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I will have no trouble watching ROTS knowing it will be the last of the movies. I will savor every last bit of the movie.

    I do agree with Windy in respect to any TV shows. I would rather have ROTS end the saga then a potentially crappy TV show or other tie-in making Star Wars look bad. I personally think the Clone Wars cartoon is an awful edition to the saga.
     
  11. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And I thought the Clone Wars shorts were brilliant.

    There's some great EU novels out there, and there's a lot of garbage.

    Yet they haven't really detracted from the impact and popularity of SW, only added to it. IMHO.

    The TV format is quite dangerous, of course - but as long as they stay away from the Saga aspect (which they will, hopefully) and just make a show in the SW universe, it could be cool.
     
  12. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Either they would have to make something totally different from the movies within the SW universe, or it would have to take place between or before the movies. Otherwise, they would have to come up with an entirely new storyline and that usually doesn't work. Lucas' story is the best one, so they should base it on that. That's why Clone Wars works so well - it's part of his story.



    Star Wars is six, two and one
    /LM
     
  13. Twinky_Stryder

    Twinky_Stryder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There's nothing wrong with ROTK, especially the EE.

    *thinks*

    Except for the Palantir scene, that was just put in there to shut up fans, I think.....

    And the Houses Of Healing could have been longer.....


    *snaps out of it*


    But other than those silly things, it's GREAT!



    As for ROTS, I will see it and love it(even if it sucks) and that will be that.
     
  14. Garth Maul

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    The scene at Isengard with Saruman is actually one of my favorite scenes in the TTT novel, but it didn't translate as well on the screen.

    My wife hasn't read TTT or ROTK, just seen the movies, and she didn't really understand the significance of the exchanges between Saruman, Gandalf and Theoden.
     
  15. spaceace27

    spaceace27 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'd like to point out that, despite the fact that both series have shortcomings (such as the drawing out of ROTK), both The Matrix and LOTR were spine-tinglingly good...and from what I've seen the same is coming true for ROTS.119 days!
     
  16. stormcloud8

    stormcloud8 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If we keep praising Matrix and LOTR on a Star Wars message board...we're gonna need an opposing view point...don't make me...
     
  17. Mandalorian_Warrior

    Mandalorian_Warrior Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Matrix is enourmously overrated. Just my opinon.
    I thought the first was entertaining, but the sequels were uncalled for, overdone and overall subpar. It seemed like they were just making up the story to go along with ideas they thought were cool, and that they were trying to make the next big trilogy instead of an actual story agenda.
     
  18. Garth Maul

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    Yeah, I'd say that's the definitive statement on the Matrix trilogy. [face_laugh]

    Well, agreed with storm - we should get off the LOTR and Matrix discussion, unless we tie it in better to ROTS.

    Everything gets tied up in ROTS. The interesting thing here is that we KNOW certain things have to happen by the end of the movie....it's going to be rather strange to watch.

    Not: "Wow, so THAT'S the major character who had to die!"

    But: "Wow, so that's HOW that character died!"

    A little different, eh?
     
  19. snap-hiss

    snap-hiss Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It definatly will be a big day for mixed emotions. I will surely be in a stupor coming out of that theater.

    !snap
     
  20. MYMUTHAZ

    MYMUTHAZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    yeah mandalorian warrior nailed the matrix!
     
  21. threepio_mania

    threepio_mania Jedi Master star 3

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    If by 'Return of the King syndrome' you mean I think that the movie will be the not very interesting conclusion to an overrated saga...then, no...I don't have that...

    As a prequel fanboy you'd be the expert on something being overrated...

    Anyway I don't care about it being an end of an era because as far as I see it ROTJ was the end of the excellent SW films. This will be the end of the okay ones.

    I wasn't bummed by LOTR ending either. Sure the greatest fantasy films in recent years were over, but I had already read the books so I didn't really feel the end of an era.

    And ROTK did not have multiple endings. Some people are trained to think fade to blacks mean the end, I guess.
     
  22. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Off topic: The Matrix is extremely underrated, IMO. I gave the trilogy a second(and third) chance and now I love it. You'll need to watch it several times and you'll need to be quite clever to get it, but if you can put up with that, I promise it'll be worthwhile.

    On topic: See my above post ;)



    Star Wars is six, two and one
    /LM
     
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