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Amph Heaven is for Real

Discussion in 'Community' started by I Are The Internets, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. DarthWilliams

    DarthWilliams Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    oh ok i see what's happening in this thread, i'll see myself out
     
  2. DarthWilliams

    DarthWilliams Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    i'm sorry, you must never have taught 2nd grade for three years like i did. i heard the craziest crap every day that was obviously not true
     
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  3. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Do you think what he "maintained" (I think you may have meant retained) had something (or a lot) to do with his father being a pastor? Do you think it's possible that he'd been talked to about heaven since he could speak?
     
  4. TheChosenSolo

    TheChosenSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No, I meant maintained, as in he maintained his story.

    Touche, it is possible. But his father (if what I saw in the trailer was how it went down) didn't agree with everything Colton was saying about heaven, so make of that what you will.
     
  5. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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  6. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    The Bible says nobody except Jesus has gone to heaven. But I guess they forgot about Enoch and Elijah. Whoops.
     
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  7. TheChosenSolo

    TheChosenSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Where's the passage you're referring to? Sounds like a newer translation corruption.
     
  8. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    What's a newer translation corruption? I thought it was infallible.
     
  9. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

    2 Kings 2:11 " And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."

    Another Bible contradiction for you to enjoy!
     
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  10. TheChosenSolo

    TheChosenSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The King James Version is infallible. However, the newer translations were taken from corrupted Alexandrian manuscripts, and don't have the true Word of God.
    2 rules to live by: 1, There are no mistakes in the King James Bible. 2, If you think you've found one, refer to Rule 1.
    Now, that's not to say I understand what's being implied here, but if you'll allow me to make an interpretation, I think what it's saying is that God carried Elijah up to heaven through the whirlwind. Christ is God, so he could ascend and descend at will. I extrapolated from "Elijah went up by a whirlwind" and in John Jesus is saying "And no man hath ascended..." I'm positive Jesus knew that He'd taken Elijah into heaven, so the error lies simply in our own interpretation.

    That's my spiel.
     
  11. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    Any evidence that the KJV is infallible? If you're going to assert a truth, you should make sure it's not just an opinion you desperately want to be true.

    And if you're interpreting the Bible, then you are guilty of violating Revelations 22:18. Sucks to be you!
     
  12. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    This is quite possibly one of the stupidest things ever.

    "It's infallible. Oh you found a mistake? It's not a mistake because it's infallible?"

    Well guess what.

    1) Lord Vivec is infallible. 2) If you think you've found a mistake, refer to rule 1.
     
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  13. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    The Bible is infallible because the Bible says it is infallible! How can you argue with logic like that?
     
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  14. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I had two dreams about UFOs, each time came after watching some special on tv about it. I guess this qualifies me to write a book about it claim truth.
     
  15. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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    Oh Jaysis Kerrist. How in the name of his daddy can you sit here and dare say to us that a storybook written by oh so fallible men - then edited by 17 century dudes of the separatist church of England that simply disagreed with other translations - is infallible??

    That is simply the one of the craziest (your geocentrist belief of the universe still being the chart-topper) and stupidest notion I've ever seen in these boards.
     
  16. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    No, you're not allowed to. You believe in the literal, infallible truth of the Bible. There should be no plurality of meanings to it, and thus no interpretations required.
     
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  17. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    "Newer translation corruption."

    Holy ****.
     
  19. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Exactly.
     
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  20. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Interestingly enough, this touches on why my faith (I'm a Baha'i) teaches that miracles are pretty much rubbish as a means to validate religion. Not because miracles can't/don't happen (my faith teaches that they do), but because we humans have a hard time believing things that we're eyewitnesses to, let alone stuff that happened to someone else hundreds or thousands of years ago.
     
  21. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    I hear the KJV is also inflammable and makes for excellent winter fuel.
     
  22. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We find 9 out of 10 consumers can't tell the difference between the King James Version and this dead crab!

    [​IMG]
     
  23. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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  24. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Sounds like something out of Star Trek.

    "Captain, my tricorder was hit by a radioactive field and now has newer translation corruption!"
     
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  25. DarthWilliams

    DarthWilliams Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes, very infallible:

    "I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever." (Jeremiah 3:12)
    "for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever." (Jeremiah 17:4)

    "And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world" (John 9:39)
    "And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world" (John 12:47)

    "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Genesis 32:30)
    "No man hath seen God at any time" (John 1:18)



    :rolleyes:
     
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